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Mini Exercises 10 Goodwill Q14 Struggling to determine number of shares

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  • February 25, 2015 at 10:20 pm #230240
    Matt
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    Hi,

    Can anyone advise on how you determine the total number of shares in S for this question (I have copied and pasted the question below for reference)? I have had a look at the solution, and it seems to display the number of shares in the calculation, but I cannot see it anywhere in the question or any clear way of determining the amount from the information provided.

    I am probably missing something completely obvious!

    Thanks in advance,
    Matt

    Q14.
    On 1 April, 2013, P acquired 75% of the equity share capital of S. S had been experiencing di?cult trading conditions and making signi?cant losses. In allowing for S’s di?culties, P made an immediate cash payment of only $1·50 per share. In addition, P will pay a further amount in cash on 30 September, 2014 if S returns to pro?tability by that date. The value of this contingent consideration at the date of acquisition was estimated to be $1·8 million, but at 30 September, 2013 in the light of continuing losses, its value was estimated at only $1·5 million. The contingent consideration has not been recorded by P. Overall, the directors of P expect the acquisition to be a bargain purchase leading to negative goodwill. At the date of acquisition shares in S had a listed market price of $1·20 each. At the date of acquisition, the fair values of S’s assets were equal to exception of a leased property. This had a fair value of $2 million above its carrying amount and a remaining lease term of 10 years at that date. All depreciation is included in cost of sales P’s policy is to value the non-controlling interest at fair value at the date of acquisition. For this purpose, S’s share price at that date can be deemed to be representative of the fair value of the shares held by the non-controlling interest.

    February 28, 2015 at 9:07 pm #230824
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    Have you worked through / followed the explanation of the example detailed within the body of the course notes?

    March 1, 2015 at 1:03 am #230830
    Matt
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    Hi Mike,

    Thanks for replying. I have gone through Chapters 6,7,8, and 9 along with the video lectures. I have worked through a good portion of the Goodwill mini exercises but have been stumped by Question 14.

    I just cannot see how I can determine how many shares there are in S in total. I can see that for the goodwill working we have a deferred payment valued at $1.8mil, NCI value of 25% x $1.2 x total shares of S, and for cost of inv 75% x $1.50 x total shares of S. But how do I determine total number of shares in S? It almost feels like the question is missing an extract from the financial statements?

    I also cannot see how you would determine the retained earnings from the info in the question. I cannot see any reference to retained earnings at all.

    Can you point me to an example in the main text, or a page number that I should review that might help, or a hint?

    Thanks,
    Matt

    March 16, 2015 at 9:49 pm #232638
    MikeLittle
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    Hi Matt

    The mini exercises on goodwill / company acquisitions are all direct lifts from past exam questions.

    From the dates in your first post, it looks like the question 1 from December 2013

    Look it up and, if it isn’t the correct reference, let me know on the ask the tutor page

    April 1, 2015 at 12:35 am #239740
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    You should be provided with a statement of financial position in the question. Pick up the number of shares from the equity section of the subsidiary, multiply by 75% and this is the number of shares acquired

    April 2, 2015 at 9:28 am #239888
    MikeLittle
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    Matt, I’ve just briefly had access to a “proper” computer rather than trying to find course notes on my iPad. I’ve looked at exercise 14 in the mini exercises and have to admit that clearly I didn’t check the typing closely enough at proof-reading stage. I apologise!

    However, if you were to check the December 2013 exam I believe that you will find the necessary missing detail sufficient for you to be able to complete the question.

    Thank you for bringing this to my attention (well, it would have been if you had posted it on Ask the Tutor!) and I shall try to remember to amend the notes when I next review them

    In future, should you come across similar problems, please post them on Ask the Tutor page, thanks

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