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Yes, I failed P7 for 5th attempt. It’s beyond my imagination coz I never failed before. It’s a smooth road then I met a rock, huge rock, the truth is: I can not complete. It’s been 2.5 years just standing front of a stone. Poor me T T
Does anybody have experiences about claiming ACCA’s result. Could it change the result? I know that 90% is only a time – comsuming and money – consuming. But I actually don’t know the reason under my failure.
Plssss help!
Don’t waste your time nor your money
One of the first students I taught when I moved abroad (11 years ago ) has just become an affiliate after struggling seemingly forever with P7
And one of her colleagues struggled , again seemingly forever, with his last two exams.
One he eventually passed in June 2013 and he finally got the last one in December 2013
You will gain absolutely NOTHING with an exam review and your quoted figure of 90% is nearer to 99.99999999%
You see I’m also baffled as to why P7 is such an immovable object?????
I’ve achieved top grades @ A-levels, a 1st class degree, passed all other ACCA papers first time (with only a week of cramming), yet I failed P7 for the second time.
Granted the first time; I finished 80% of the paper and finished with 46%.
This time I finished the entire paper, was amazed at how easy the paper was, and in my heart of heart I was preparing my genius hunt award speech.LOL. I was that confident of getting near full marks.
But somehow I got 41%.
Maybe, when you come out of the exam room and think “I’m amazed at how easy that exam was” you should instead be saying “I found that to be too easy. I’ve probably missed so many obvious points that I should start getting worried” – never mind planning your acceptance speech
These exams are never easy and for someone to complain that they have failed to achieve a pass grade (let alone a grade worthy of a first class honours degree) on the back of one week’s cramming is arrogance personified.
You should have been warned by your tutor if you have one, by friends and colleagues and by opentuition that these exams are like nothing on Earth that you have ever faced before. And learn from this experience that you can never predict how you have gone on in an exam.
The students that write in and say “How did I get 63% when I knew that I had failed” and others who say “How did I only get 31% when I thought I was in the low 80s?”
You cannot predict. Come out of that exam room and put the whole thing to the back of your mind – no post-mortems, no soul-searching. Just forget it until 8 February (or 8 August)
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Thanks @MikeLittle, @naomi, now the biggest fear that I can not control my result, that what I feel. It’s suck.
@Abdul: It seems that we both hoped for damned group on 7 Aug (in deleted forum) and now we both know, it’s damn true, we still have “STUDENT” in the group. This time I got 40, Dec 2013, I got 45. I wonder why decreasing 5 marks is so easy, while increasing 5 marks is only dreamable. It hurts. Maybe, it’s meaningless but less hurt when I found out there’s the same guy with poor scenary like me. Thanks so much, and we have nothing to do but try and try. It seems we play lottery :(((You got to love @Mike Little
I have learned not to look back the minute i finish the paper. It took me a while to get there but its the best way not to go crazy and analyse every little thing. I don’t check the exam paper and the answers when it’s released. I wait for the exam results patiently. Because no matter what i do between the exam day and the exam result, will not change the outcome.
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Hi Everyone, administrative reviews only helps you if you want to find which questions did you fail in. I did a review for my P6 and I was given a detailed breakdown of pass and fail of each question. It made me aware of areas that I need more practise in and next time I passed. Although I didn’t made a review in seek of passing as @Mike said earlier that is nearly impossible that your marks will change. There is policy of rechecking in almost all professional qualification for students with marginal fail, so it’s very difficult you can get anything out of it.
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Similar to Abdul I have a first class degree and cannot recall ever failing an exam until I sat F8 in June 2013. I came out of that exam expecting to get 80+. I was so confident of passing I didn’t even envisage I would fail with 46.
What compounded the result was the fact that the June sitting had the highest pass rate ever (56%).
This led me to undertake an administrative review which was fruitless. I was even considering quitting the ACCA assuming foul play to minimise pass rate. In the end I accepted that I must have not answered questions adequately despite the questions being easy (As Mike stated above)
However I persevered, passed the resit. All of my papers other than F8 were first time passes and I am now an affiliate.
I do have one question for Mike. How can some papers maintain a similar pass rate, (P1-P3) have 50% almost every year but analysing papers shows varying difficulty. Does the Acca move boundaries around?
In my experience, they VERY OCCASIONALLY move the pass mark down (never up)
If, at the markers’ meeting during the week after the exam date, the marking team report that the students generally seem to have found great difficulty with the paper, then the marking team (with the approval of the examiner and an ACCA observer) may be given the authority to award bonus marks where none was allocated on the official marking scheme.
In addition the examiner, after discussion with the team, may indicate that the pass mark looks like it’s going to be 49 or 48, simply to compensate for the degree of difficulty that the students generally appear to have experienced.
It was never my experience that the required pass mark was increased and on only 2 occasions in 20 exam sittings was it decreased.
Trust me here! The ACCA want you to pass. They are not in the business of inflicting cruelty. They are not savage heartless anonymous monsters desperate to restrict the pass rate to maintain a quota system. They (ACCA, examiner and markers) all want you to pass.
On initial marking, if you have scored 50 or more, the marker will not consider your script again to see if they were too generous. You’ve got 50? That’s enough!
But if your script is a marginal fail on first marking, the marker will look again in fine detail trying to find any opportunity at all to give you that one more mark (even half a mark because that will get rounded up when the mark for the question is transferred to the summary sheet) One of my colleagues says that “If you put a dirty mark on your answer paper, you may just get that crucial half mark” He exaggerates, but you get the idea
If as a result of that re-mark the marker has managed to squeeze your score up to 49 or 48, they will go through your script YET AGAIN looking for that elusive 1 or 2 marks to get you to 50
The examiner will also look very closely at marginal fail scripts and the ACCA also has a system (effectively of internal auditors) to ensure consistency and fairness of marking
All these points combine to explain why the MOST COMMON mark achieved by students is 50%. You would expect that to be the case as a result of the normal distribution curve but the incidence of a score of 50% is increased by these marginal scripts that have been “squeezed” up from 45, 46, 47, 48 and 49
How many of you have scored exactly 50% in an ACCA exam? that’s not because you really scored 52% but the ACCA has said “No, we’ll settle on 50%” It’s because you were possibly initially scored at 47% but the marker has managed to find 3 more half or full marks to get you up there!
I’m sorry to write this next paragraph but here goes …. if you have failed with a score in the high 40s, then you deserve to fail. Everything possible has been done to get you up to 50%
And all of the above is justification for what I tell students every session! The more you write, the more opportunities the marker has to give you that one more half mark
Points means marks!
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Thanks Mike. You have definitely given me a great insight of how the system works. And restored any reservations I had about the marking process.
Looking back, failing F8 when the pass rate was 56% was a huge wake up call for me personally. Although it was my only failure in all 14 papers, I certainly gained more from this one failure than any pass.
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@MikeLittle, I extremely admire you and am convinced of what you said although you’re just like a Messenger of ACCA. LoL. I do know that with P7, academic wording is required. Maybe I’m only use my basic knowledge with experiences in auditing, which I found 100% match to knowledge of P7 but it seems that in my wording, that “knowledge” can’t get mark. At the end of story, this’s my mistake, my failure and I actually need to change coz I’ve been still on the old track for a long time. Accept the truth and try, maybe next attempt I can control my result.
Good point MikeLittle – the chances that so many people get exactly 50% is so unrealistic and it certainly sounds plausible that the examiners are scrapping around to get us to the border.
BUT
On another note these exams are supposed to be hard, tough and challenging.
The ACCA/CIMA/ACA etc are respected qualifications.
At the end of the ACCA having become an affiliate I can honestly say it was an amazing experience and I learnt so much on the way (7 years of passing and failing)
The great thing about exams is that you can try again and again and each time you know a little more and have more experience…….you only need to pass once!
Please tutors your supports are much appreciated!
I did read that I cannot predict the result. I sat F6 Dec 17 and got 47 then attempt in march 18 and got 46 ! I was not Worried about the pass mark. I was excited about the pass mark I may get 80, 70 or 60 but I never imagined that I would fail again. Especially the last attempt I done well, my answer was clear and straight to the point with good presentation much much much better than the first attempt which I was not confident but the second I was fairly confident and I couldn’t believe the 46 mark in the second attempt !
I am self studier ! Please advise@ichbinyahia said:
Please tutors your supports are much appreciated!
I did read that I cannot predict the result. I sat F6 Dec 17 and got 47 then attempt in march 18 and got 46 ! I was not Worried about the pass mark. I was excited about the pass mark I may get 80, 70 or 60 but I never imagined that I would fail again. Especially the last attempt I done well, my answer was clear and straight to the point with good presentation much much much better than the first attempt which I was not confident but the second I was fairly confident and I couldn’t believe the 46 mark in the second attempt !
I am self studier ! Please adviseI suggest posting your own topic, in the relevant “Ask a Tutor” forum, rather than bumping a 4 year old topic if you want help from a tutor.
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