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  • This topic has 21 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • August 12, 2014 at 2:30 pm #189636
    josy87
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    Sir
    Purchases of 2,125 have been debited to both purchases and payable account
    Wages paid of 750 have debited to heat and light expenses.
    A loan of 4,000 was correctly credited to the loan account but not others entries were made.

    What;s the balance of the suspense account?

    A $250 CR
    B $250 DR
    C 1875 DR
    D 1875 CR

    I got 4250(DR)- 40000(CR)= B

    got B but the answer is A, dont understand

    August 12, 2014 at 2:48 pm #189644
    John Moffat
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    Your entries (4250 DR and 4000 CR) are the correct entries to clear the balance on the suspense account. When those entries have been made, the balance will be zero.

    At the moment, the corrections have not been made, so it must mean that the balance on suspense is currently 250 CR . (To correct afterwards, you would then make your entries which again would then result in a NIL balance).

    August 25, 2014 at 6:17 pm #192290
    gabriell
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    Hi,
    Rent received of 240 had been credited to the rent payable account.
    Whar was entry and what should be?
    Please answer

    August 25, 2014 at 7:44 pm #192294
    John Moffat
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    It should have been credited to the rent receivable account.

    So the correcting entry is Dr Rent payable and Cr Rent receivable

    (It has no effect on the suspense account)

    August 25, 2014 at 7:49 pm #192295
    gabriell
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    Dear,
    I wanted to ask transaction of rent receivable and rent payable . Write in double entry.

    August 26, 2014 at 6:31 am #192329
    John Moffat
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    For rent payable: Cr Cash; Dr Rent payable

    For rent receivable: Dr Cash; Cr Rent receivable

    (One point that might be confusing is the we use the words ‘rent payable’ to be the rent actually paid (not the rent still owing, despite using the word ‘payable’). Similarly ‘rent receivable’ is used to mean the rent actually received – not the rent still due to us.)

    August 26, 2014 at 8:02 am #192343
    gabriell
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    Thanks 🙂

    August 26, 2014 at 10:20 am #192372
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    September 5, 2014 at 6:36 pm #194007
    gabriell
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    Mr john..

    A purchase return of 48 has been wrongly posted to the debit of the sales return account, but has been correctly entered in the suppliers account.
    Which of the following statements about the trial balance would be correct

    Answer
    The debit side to be 96 ore than credit side explanaition please

    September 5, 2014 at 6:41 pm #194008
    gabriell
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    Accountant discoverex following errors after calculati g errors

    A) a non current asset costing 50000 has been included in the purchase account
    B) stationery costing 10000 has been included as closing inventory of raw materials instead of stationery expense

    What is the effect on gross and net profit
    Answer

    Understatement of gross profit by 40000 and underst of net profit by 30000

    September 5, 2014 at 9:01 pm #194025
    gabriell
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    Entering 50 $ reseived from A on the credit side of A account
    Is this demand suspense account?

    September 5, 2014 at 9:25 pm #194026
    gabriell
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    In october 2006 ann sold some goods on sale or return terms for 2500. Their cost to ann was 1500. The transaction has been trated as a credit sale in ann’s finansial statements for the year ended 31 oct 2006. In november 2006 the customer accepted half of the goods and returned the others half in good condition. What adjustements if any shoukd be made to the financial statements.
    Answer
    Sales and reseivables should be reduced by 2500 $ and closing inventory increased by 1500

    September 6, 2014 at 7:49 am #194038
    John Moffat
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    First question:

    The correct entry should be DR Supplier; CR purchase returns.

    They have made two debits instead of a debit and a credit. So the debits will be too big and the credits too small – in total debits will be higher than credit by 2 x 48 = 96

    September 6, 2014 at 7:53 am #194039
    John Moffat
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    Second question:

    Non-current assets has been shown as purchases but shouldn’t be in the statement of profit or loss at all.
    So gross profit and net profit should both be higher by 50,000.

    Inventory of stationary should reduce the stationary expense (below gross profit), not reduce the cost of sales. So gross profit should be reduced by 10,000. Net profit is not affected.

    So net effect is gross profit should by higher by 40,000, and net profit should be higher by 50,000.

    (You have typed the answer incorrectly)

    September 6, 2014 at 7:55 am #194040
    John Moffat
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    Third question:

    I do not understand. “Is this demand suspense account?” does not make sense.

    September 6, 2014 at 7:58 am #194042
    John Moffat
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    Fourth question:

    As at 31 October they had made no sale, and should not have recorded it as a sale. (it was sale or return, and at 31 October they had not heard from the customer and so at that date they had sold nothing).

    So the full amount of the sale needs removing. Also, the full cost of the inventory needs including.

    (This is not a suspense account question, so please start a new thread in future rather than have a long list of questions on the same page)

    September 6, 2014 at 2:45 pm #194083
    gabriell
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    Thank u, John

    4. How did u know no sale occured?. But it says that customer accepted the goods.
    Why inventory need including?

    5. The suspense account shows a debit balance of 100. What could this balance be due to?
    A) entering 50 reseived from A on the debit side of A account
    B) undercasting the purchases account by 100
    Why answe a is not correct
    Thank u again 🙂

    September 6, 2014 at 6:51 pm #194103
    John Moffat
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    4. The customer didn’t accept the goods until November. So at 31 October, no sale had been made.

    5.

    Answer A would mean that the debits in the trial balance would be 100 higher than the credits. To make the trial balance balance, we would need a suspense account with a credit balance of 100.

    Answer B will mean that the debits in the trial balance would be 100 lower than the credits. So to make it balance we need a suspense account with a debit balance of 100.

    September 6, 2014 at 7:12 pm #194110
    gabriell
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    Thanks

    September 6, 2014 at 7:18 pm #194112
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    September 8, 2014 at 5:50 pm #194343
    gabriell
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    John.
    Sales journal undercast 150
    Sales day book undercast 150
    In 1 we. Need suspense
    But 2 not need
    Why??

    September 8, 2014 at 6:52 pm #194361
    John Moffat
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    I don’t know where you got this question from, but assuming there was nothing else in the question that you have not typed then neither of them result in a suspense account.

    The sales journal and the sales day book are two different names for the same thing – the list of sales on credit.

    For both, we take the total from the book and DR Receivables Cr Sales.

    If the total is wrong because we have undercast, then the DR and CR will both be of the wrong amount, but because the Dr and Cr will be of the same amount the trial balance will still balance and so a suspense account will not be needed.

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