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December 2012 Impairment.

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  • This topic has 5 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 11 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • June 1, 2014 at 11:04 pm #172496
    warren92
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    Hello Mike,

    I hope you are in good health. I am confused with point number 2 from Question 1 of December 2012 regarding impairment.

    [Both Bower and Heeny were impairment tested at 30 November 2012. The recoverable amounts of both cash
    generating units as stated in the individual financial statements at 30 November 2012 were Bower,
    $1,425 million, and Heeny, $604 million, respectively. The directors of Minny felt that any impairment of assets
    was due to the poor performance of the intangible assets. The recoverable amount has been determined without
    consideration of liabilities which all relate to the financing of operations.]

    What does it mean by ”The recoverable amount has been determined without
    consideration of liabilities which all relate to the financing of operations”

    How the impairment will be calculated in this question.

    Why the impairment is calculated by comparing [assets+gw] with the recoverable amount

    595+23=654
    (50)
    604

    Why not the [net+gw] are compared to the recoverable value

    https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/acca/global/PDF-students/acca/p2/exampapers/int/p2int_2012_dec_q.pdf

    https://www.accaglobal.com/content/dam/acca/global/PDF-students/acca/p2/exampapers/int/p2int_2012_dec_a.pdf

    June 2, 2014 at 6:33 am #172536
    MikeLittle
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    Because that’s the way the examiner has set up the scenario!

    June 2, 2014 at 11:19 am #172589
    warren92
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    Can you explain what it means by : The recoverable amount has been determined without
    consideration of liabilities which all relate to the financing of operations

    June 2, 2014 at 6:18 pm #172937
    MikeLittle
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    Recoverable amount is the higher of value in use compared with net selling price.

    The expression that you are querying means that, in determining recoverable amount, no attention has been paid to the requirement of settling the obligations.

    Don’t, please, ask me why. It’s simply the way the examiner wanted to put a little twist in the question

    June 2, 2014 at 11:10 pm #173041
    warren92
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    Why the examiner is so keen to ask question that he wants students cannot answer. I looked at an article from deloitte and it says:

    ”Allocating assets and liabilities to CGUs:

    The allocation of assets and liabilities to a CGU, so as to establish the carrying amount of the CGU, should be determined on a basis consistent with the way the recoverable amount
    of the CGU is determined (IAS 36: 75).”

    To me it looks like:

    When it says in the question that ”The recoverable amount has been determined without consideration of liabilities which all relate to the financing of operations”

    So we should also determine the carrying amount without consideration of liabilities which all related to the financing of operation in order to be consistent with the way the recoverable amount is determined.

    Am I right?

    https://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-Nigeria/Local%20Assets/Documents/IFRS%20Watch/IFRS%20Watch%20-%20Issue%2010.pdf

    June 3, 2014 at 8:32 am #173134
    MikeLittle
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    That’s how I would interpret it!

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