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material & Persuasive

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  • This topic has 5 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 11 years ago by aishaasad.
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  • November 17, 2013 at 7:21 pm #146490
    sarmbano
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    Hi,

    How do you determine if the matter is material and persuasive or material and not persuasive.

    Thanks

    November 17, 2013 at 7:55 pm #146495
    Ken Garrett
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    The term is ‘pervasive’, not ‘persuasive’.

    Pervasive means present or noticeable in every part of a thing or place. The classification between material and pervasive is one for the judgement of the audit partner. If a matter is pervasive it means that the FS are too all intents and purposes useless because the misstatement or the item where it has not been possible to collect sufficient appropriate audit evidence, is so large.

    So, if an error caused profits of $100,000 to be overstated by $25,000, the error would be material, but not pervasive. If an error caused profits of $100,000 to be overstated by $150,000 (ie real result = loss of $50,000), then that would probably be pervasive.

    You need to demonstrate an awareness of the two degrees of seriousness. Any judgement you make of marginal items will not be important: just discuss the options

    November 18, 2013 at 2:32 am #146524
    aishaasad
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    Hello Sir ,
    You have mentioned that we have to discuss the various options and this is the case in most scenarios.but the examiner says tht that the students adopt scattergun approach in giving an audit opinion and she expects from the audit student to give one off decision .can you please throw some light on it?
    regards

    November 18, 2013 at 7:58 am #146545
    Ken Garrett
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    Discuss the options then make a decision.

    November 18, 2013 at 9:20 am #146556
    gmwangi
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    circumstances
    1 inability to obtain sufficient appropriate audit evidence

    2 material mistatment
    if circumstance 1, is material give a qualify opinion, if material and also pervasive give a disclaimer opinion ie cannot express any opinion.

    if circumstance 2 is material qualify opinion ‘except for’ if not only material but also pervasive give an adverse opinion ie the report is not true and fair. you will base your opinion after calculating materiality relative to either profit etc

    November 19, 2013 at 1:06 am #146691
    aishaasad
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    Thanks stay blessed

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