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- September 10, 2013 at 5:28 pm #140273
In question mentioned above, why 8,000,000 gain on revaluation of leased plant on the first day of the year ended 30 Sep 2011 (i.e 1-Oct-2010) creates 8,000,000 x 30% = 2,400,000 deferred tax? Why the deferred tax for this gain is not (8,000,000 – 500,000 additional depreciation for the year) x 30% = 2,245,000?
(500,000 = 8,000,000/16 years)September 10, 2013 at 5:59 pm #140278Each year, the tax-written-down value of all the TNCA will be compared with the net book values (carrying values). At the year end, the difference is then multiplied by the tax rate. So, the carrying value as at 1 October, before the year’s depreciation is 8 million.
I don’t know if that answers it – if not, post again
September 10, 2013 at 7:12 pm #140286Dear Mike,
8 million is at 1 October, so it is before the year’s amortization. However, the carrying amount at the year end should be 7.5 million (0.5 mil amortization). That is why I am confused why 8 mil but not 7.5 should be multiplied by the tax rate at 30 Sep 2011. Is there any mistake here?
Thank you.
Wishing you well!September 11, 2013 at 6:58 pm #140338Hi – never thought of this before so thank you for bringing it to my attention. I’ll maybe need to look again at this again!
September 13, 2013 at 11:32 am #140410Hi Mike,
I am still looking forward to hearing from you.
🙁September 13, 2013 at 9:40 pm #140449Hi – sorry, I’ve not forgotten you – just got some friends over from the UK and personal time for opentuition is very limited. Anyway, try this! When the asset is revalued, the deferred tax is calculated and adjusted as at the date of revaluation by increasing the liability to carry forward and charging the debit either to current tax account or to revaluation reserve. Important to see that the deferred tax liability has been adjusted.
As at the end of the year, the deferred tax liability to carry forward is re-assessed (this is done annually) and, at that time, the taw written down values of the assets will be compared with the net book values of the assets. The difference between these two amounts is then ….. as above. In an F7 exam, you will be given either the difference and the tax rate OR you will be given the liability to carry forward
But in both cases, the deferred tax liability will be increased on the event of the revaluation and the deferred tax related to that revaluation should be charged to the revaluation reserve (it isn’t always in an F7 exam, but the examiner will tell you what to do)
Is that better?
September 19, 2015 at 4:16 pm #272499Hi mike, needed help for this.
Financial year ended is 31 dec 2004.
Interest income in 2004 is $3434 and receivable is $100 at 31 dec 2004.
Depreciation is $1032 over 5 years and tax depreciation is over 3 years.
Expenses of $1000 is not deductible for tax purposes.cost of ppe
1 jan 2004 : $ 5566
Additions : $2746
31 dec 2004 : $8312accumulated dep
1 jan 2004 : $4336
charge for the year : $1032
31 dec 2004 : $5368NBV at 31 dec : $2944
written down tax value
2003: $441
2004: $220Current and deferred tax liabilities on 2003 are $215 and $174. Tax for 2003 is paid on 2004. Tax rate for 2003 is 22% and 2004 is 20%.
Required is the disclosure by IAS 12September 19, 2015 at 6:19 pm #272506Hi
I’m sorry about this but I’m not prepared to go through all the lengthy disclosure required by this question!
Tell me which bit of the answer it is that you don’t understand and I’ll explain it to you but you cannot in all honesty expect me to detail all the disclosure notes
September 20, 2015 at 2:54 am #272528Sorry, I am confused for the calculations of the tax expense and tax liability
September 20, 2015 at 9:19 am #272540For 2003 the difference between net book value of assets 1,230 (5,566 – 4,336) and the tax base of those assets (441) is 789
789 multiplied by the tax rate for 2003 is 789 x 22% = 173.58 (as per the question) and that’s the deferred tax liability on the PPE for 2003
Using the same principles for 2004, the deferred tax position would seem to be 2,944 (given in the question) – 220 (again, per question) multiplied by 20%
So 2,724 x 20% = 545 to carry forward in the deferred tax account related to PPE. This represents a movement on deferred tax of 371 (545 – 174). 371 will therefore be credited to deferred tax account and debited to current tax account. This will increase the charge to the statement of profit or loss in the tax figure by 371
I don’t have enough information to be able to calculate the current tax and I’m not convinced that you’ve given me enough information to be certain that I have completed the deferred tax calculation correctly
I just hope that what I have given you is enough to answer your problems
September 20, 2015 at 1:18 pm #272560Really thankyou for ur crystal explaination!!
Another question is
1) Open balance of deferred liability (current and deferred liability of previous year) is 389.
Ending balance is 565.
This means that the amount charged to profit and loss is 176(565-389)?2) is the taxable difference for depreciation of asset is include in the current tax liability?
God bless you for ur help(: really having a hard time with this tedious question..
September 20, 2015 at 8:49 pm #272583No, I’ve already dealt with the 174 brought forward deferred tax balance and I’ve also already said that I don’t have all the information necessary to calculate the current tax liability
You’re getting worked up over (probably) only a two mark mcq! It’s been a long long time since a question purely on the calculation of tax was asked – there’s a whole paper (F6) asking about your tax knowledge so why ask more in F7?
(The taxable difference in the depreciation is taken into account in the deferred tax calculation)
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