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BBS STORE JUNE/06 (BUSINESS RESTRUCTURING)

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  • This topic has 41 replies, 13 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • March 13, 2013 at 9:53 am #119758
    muhammad irfan
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    HELLO SIR WE HAVE PROBLEM IN SOLVING THIS QUESTION.ITS PART B SPECIALLY THE PART WHERE BETA ASSET IS UNGEARED AND THEN REGEARED,PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS ,AS THE SCENARIO NOT TOLD ABOUT RTAIL AND PROPERTY BETA AND ITS EQUITY AND DEBT MARKET VALUES

    March 13, 2013 at 5:51 pm #119780
    John Moffat
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    The best approach is as follows:

    We know the current equity beta of the whole company (1.824) and so we can work out the asset beta for the whole company using the asset beta formula. (We know the current market values of the equity and the debt using a combination of the nominal values on the balance sheet and the market values per share etc..)

    We also know the equity beta for property – there is a ‘representative portfolio’ with an equity beta of 1.25. We can calculate an asset beta for property using the asset beta formula, and the gearing of the ‘representative portfolio’.

    Because the total asset beta of BBS is a combination of property and retail, it means that this total asset beta will be the weighted average of the asset betas of property and of retail, weighting by the market values. The question tells us the value of the property part – the retails part is the balance.

    So….since we know the total asset beta, the asset beta of property, and the weighting, we can work backwards to get an asset beta for retail.

    I hope that helps! If not, ask again 🙂

    March 15, 2013 at 3:15 am #119836
    muhammad irfan
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    thanks so much for helping………..100% understood your answer, thanks again

    March 16, 2013 at 10:36 am #119882
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    March 21, 2013 at 2:47 pm #120227
    anna263
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    Hello!
    I would like to ask also about that question. Why the 6800 equity is split by 4338 for property and 2462 for retail ? What is the weighting ?

    March 21, 2013 at 6:15 pm #120292
    John Moffat
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    If you look at the table in the middle of the question, then it tells you what the value is of the property (and to the balance is the value of the retail).

    June 2, 2013 at 8:54 am #128208
    Anonymous
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    Hi John,
    could you tell me why market gearing = D/(D+E) rather than D/E?
    I thought gearing can be both?

    November 11, 2013 at 3:16 pm #145402
    jaisonacca
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    Sir I couldn’t understand how the Beta .625 is arrived at in finding out the beta for retail store.In the question it is mentioned that the property business has a ‘representative portfolio’ with an equity beta of 1.25.

    Very very confused. Rest of the part is fine.

    Thanks in advance.

    Jaison Philip

    November 11, 2013 at 7:11 pm #145450
    John Moffat
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    The gearing ratio can indeed be both, but we are looking at the gearing for the formula to ungear the beta.

    November 11, 2013 at 7:13 pm #145451
    John Moffat
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    The overall beta of the business is the weighted average of the betas of the two parts – property and retail – weighted by the market values of the two parts.

    Since we know the overall beta of the business, and we know the beta of property, we can work backwards to calculate the beta of retail.

    May 12, 2015 at 7:56 am #245410
    yashi23
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    i am unsure about this Since we know the overall beta of the business, and we know the beta of property, we can work backwards to calculate the beta of retail.please guide me

    May 12, 2015 at 10:29 am #245455
    John Moffat
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    If you watch the free lectures on CAPM you will find that I go through the procedure of weighting betas to calculate an overall beta (and working backwards as is needed in this question).

    May 12, 2015 at 6:48 pm #245549
    accastudf5
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    Sorry, but I still cannot understand how I can calculate the beta of property section (0.625). Can you please help me?

    May 12, 2015 at 8:02 pm #245561
    John Moffat
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    You get it by ungearing the equity beta of the “representative portfolio” of other property companies. They have an equity beta of 1.25. You are told the gearing is 50% (after tax), and so you can calculate the asset beta for property by using the asset beta formula.

    May 14, 2015 at 8:42 am #245879
    accastudf5
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    So do you mean that beta for property section is 1.25 * 50/(50+50)=0.625?

    Thanks a lot!

    May 14, 2015 at 2:02 pm #245940
    John Moffat
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    Yes 🙂

    May 15, 2015 at 10:19 am #246096
    accastudf5
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    Thanks for confirmation! I wanted to be 100% sure that this is how it’s done.

    May 15, 2015 at 12:02 pm #246116
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    May 15, 2015 at 2:49 pm #246144
    Ka Seng
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    Hi sir, I couldn’t see the word “retail” in the whole question. but it appears in the answer. this is the question in June 2009 right?

    I am finding the weighting between “retail” and property and I read your answer above, that u are saying it appear in the table in the middle of the question, but I don’t see any.

    can you show me the sample of your question paper?

    May 15, 2015 at 3:36 pm #246168
    John Moffat
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    Although I cannot upload any of the question paper (it is copyright of the ACCA, and they get very upset about that sort of thing 🙂 ), I am sure that I am looking at the same question as you.

    You are quite correct in saying that there is no mention of retail in the question (the examiner only used the word in his answer) although in some ways it doesn’t matter what the 50% that is left is. The clue, however, is that the company is called BBS Stores, which does suggest that they are stores selling things (i.e. retail), but that they also own property.

    It was rather unfair and is one of the factors that made it a very difficult question (and is also one of the reasons that the examiner who set that exam did not last very long – many of his questions were awful, and he only lasted a few year. The new examiner took over in 2010.

    May 15, 2015 at 4:42 pm #246219
    Ka Seng
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    Agree :), I am currently on struggle to digest his questions (before dec 2010 PYQ). I have finished all the current examiner’s question, only left few questions prepare by the previous examiner, which are now making me having serious headache.

    The problem is that, i can’t find the information about the weighting between this two business activity of BBS. Mind telling me you manage to find it from which number?

    May 15, 2015 at 4:47 pm #246223
    John Moffat
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    The property is the land & buildings, and the assets under construction. They are all realistic values (since the land & buildings have been revalued).

    The retail is the balance remaining.

    I do hope that helps 🙂

    May 15, 2015 at 4:53 pm #246226
    Ka Seng
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    It helps, thanks a lot sir!!

    May 15, 2015 at 4:56 pm #246227
    John Moffat
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    Great 🙂

    May 15, 2015 at 5:00 pm #246230
    Ka Seng
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    can I ask something regarding other question in this thread?

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