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Discontinued Operations

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  • September 24, 2016 at 8:09 pm #341587
    Muslim Farooque
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    if for example a part of a business is closed down after 2 weeks of year end but the decision is made 2 weeks before, what should we look at in classfiying it as a discontinued operation? should we look at year end or criteria?

    September 24, 2016 at 9:16 pm #341591
    MikeLittle
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    When was the decision to close put into the public domain?

    In your unusual example, as a business that is actually continuing as at the year end, the concept of discontinuance is irrelevant

    It could be that the asset should be classified as ‘held for sale’ if all the necessary criteria are met, but it’s not discontinued

    Does that answer you?

    September 25, 2016 at 12:27 pm #341626
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    if the criteria of discontinued operations is met but the actual closure takes place 2 weeks after year end, will it be considered as discontinued operations?

    September 25, 2016 at 4:27 pm #341648
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    “if the criteria of discontinued operations is met but the actual closure takes place 2 weeks after year end”

    That’s an impossible combination!

    The word ‘discontinued’ is the PAST tense of the verb

    To be classed as ‘discontinued’ it must have ….. discontinued!

    September 29, 2016 at 3:28 pm #342063
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    simply sir im saying that if the decision is made and everyone is conveyed and all regarding the closure, but the segment officially closes 2 weeks after year end, will it be dealt under IFRS 5 this year??

    September 29, 2016 at 5:16 pm #342069
    MikeLittle
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    “but the segment officially closes 2 weeks after year end”

    I appear to be struggling getting this point across, but I’ll persevere!

    At the year end, no matter what decisions had been made nor who has been told, the business is still continuing …

    … and therefore …

    … it’s not discontinued

    OK now?

    October 4, 2016 at 5:55 pm #342386
    Muslim Farooque
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    its ok sir but one last thing that, ive been told by one of my tutors that the criteria for discontinued operations is 1. it should be closed/sold before year end or 2.held for sale at year end,

    is this criteria correct? and if not whats the correct criteria?

    October 4, 2016 at 6:06 pm #342389
    MikeLittle
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    Yes, it should ideally have been closed or sold before the year end

    However, it can still be classed as discontinued if it is held for sale and is no longer operating

    Put it in the context of a motor car

    You’ve just bought yourself a new car in November

    Hopefully you will have sold the old one by the end of December – you’re advertising it quite heavily and there’s a lot of interest shown

    You’ve not driven the old one once since you bought the new car

    Two possibles …

    1) you’ve already sold the old one – that’s quite clearly a discontinued operation – or

    2) you’ve not yet managed to sell the old one but you are marketing it aggressively at a price that you would be prepared to accept. It’s correctly classified as held-for-sale and has not been used since the new replacement car was purchased

    But the real point here is that an asset held-for-sale is not necessarily a discontinued operation. We could still be using it but we are prepared to sell it at a moment’s notice

    All elephants are animals but not all animals are elephants … a discontinued operation may be held-for-sale but not all held-for-sale are necessarily discontinued

    October 4, 2016 at 7:15 pm #342396
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    awesome sir thanks,sorry for taking so much of your time

    October 4, 2016 at 10:00 pm #342410
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    No problem, you’re welcome

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