Please assist me with my understanding of FV adjustments.
Why do we increase/reduce the Retained Earnings with movements in Liabilities.
Say there was a Contingent Liability in subsidiary that is recognized at FV. When this is settled- the payment is reflected in the Consolidated Retained Earnings as an increase.
I understand why depreciation for example would be taken there, not clear on why the Liability is or has this effect on Retained Earnings
When do we adjust for NCI share of impairment losses when calculating the amount of NCI to be included in the consol SOFP of the group? I鈥檓 doing the practice questions and the workings vary. Sometimes impairment losses is adjusted and sometimes it isn鈥檛?
You state that goodwill is at 2100. You are using the fair value method for NCI. Doesn’t this mean that goodwill attributable to AB group at reporting date is = to 75% of 2100? ie. 1575
It would therefore mean that impairment is also split up 75 % – 25% therefore impairment for ab group = 75% of 420 = 315
So goodwill recorder at 31st dec for the group SOFP = 1575 less 315 = 1260
I agree with Ewa’s comment above, the lecture example above doesn’t match the answers you provide at the end of the notes page 113. Would you please explain the differences? Also, I tried to do the full group accounts for these companies & couldn’t get the SFP to balance.
If the fair value decreases then you will reduce the carrying value of the assets. This would only happen for a non-depreciable asset such as land, or possibly inventory.
Re: Chapter 4 F2, Answer 1 鈥揊air value adjustments
Hi, Sorry to bother you but I have just been through your calculations for example 1 Fair value adjustment and there are some differences in your calculations compare to the answer you provide at the end of the notes page 113. Would you please explain the differences? Thank you for your help Ewa
To show control we put in 100% of the subsidiary’s assets and liabilities.
PUP adjustments are made when there is unsold inventory at the reporting date, regardless of who sold it to whom. The key about who sells it is linked to where the adjustment to retained earnings is made.
Not sure on the Ppe . You add in 100% of subsidiary 5k and not 75% of this value?
Also not sure about pup , do we only adjust if parent sells to subsidiary? I have seen thru another lecture by another provider that if there is selling between sub and parent this should be eliminated, however I have seen thru another provider that we only adjust this if parent seeks to subsidiary but not if subsidiary sells to parent?
nasiphidl says
Hi
Please assist me with my understanding of FV adjustments.
Why do we increase/reduce the Retained Earnings with movements in Liabilities.
Say there was a Contingent Liability in subsidiary that is recognized at FV. When this is settled- the payment is reflected in the Consolidated Retained Earnings as an increase.
I understand why depreciation for example would be taken there, not clear on why the Liability is or has this effect on Retained Earnings
chazek says
When do we adjust for NCI share of impairment losses when calculating the amount of NCI to be included in the consol SOFP of the group? I鈥檓 doing the practice questions and the workings vary. Sometimes impairment losses is adjusted and sometimes it isn鈥檛?
chazek says
I worked out the answer to this now 馃檪
xenofondas says
Hi,
You state that goodwill is at 2100. You are using the fair value method for NCI.
Doesn’t this mean that goodwill attributable to AB group at reporting date is = to 75% of 2100? ie. 1575
It would therefore mean that impairment is also split up 75 % – 25% therefore impairment for ab group = 75% of 420 = 315
So goodwill recorder at 31st dec for the group SOFP = 1575 less 315
= 1260
No?
Thank you
sarah2202 says
Hello,
I agree with Ewa’s comment above, the lecture example above doesn’t match the answers you provide at the end of the notes page 113.
Would you please explain the differences?
Also, I tried to do the full group accounts for these companies & couldn’t get the SFP to balance.
Please can you help?
Many thanks
Sarah
P2-D2 says
Hi,
The answer in the video is the correct answer, please ignore the answer in the back of the class notes for now. I will update it in due course.
Without being able to see your answer I cannot explain why your group SFP does not balance, sorry.
Thanks
sarah2202 says
Thank you for confirming!
This is my group SFP;
PPE – 18,000
Goodwill – 1,680
Current assets
Inventory – 10,500
Receivables – 8,000
Bank – 5,000
Total – 43,180
Equity shares – 15,000
Reserves – 17,435
Non-controlling interest – 2,600
Current liabilities – 7,000
Total – 42,035
I really appreciate your help.
Thank you
Sarah
aditi1974 says
Hello Sara,
You have not adjusted the NCI-
Fair value + 25% of post acquisition reserve – 25% of goodwill impairment
# 2600+ 25% of 5000- 25% of 420
# 2600+ 1250- 105=3745
Therefore the value increases from 2600 to 3745= 1145
Add 1145 to 42035= 43180. Both sides balances.
Thanks.
saadgadit says
What adjustment will be required in consolidated financial statements if the fair value of the investment increases?
P2-D2 says
Hi,
If the fair value decreases then you will reduce the carrying value of the assets. This would only happen for a non-depreciable asset such as land, or possibly inventory.
Thanks
ewamarek says
Re: Chapter 4 F2, Answer 1 鈥揊air value adjustments
Hi,
Sorry to bother you but I have just been through your calculations for example 1 Fair value adjustment and there are some differences in your calculations compare to the answer you provide at the end of the notes page 113.
Would you please explain the differences?
Thank you for your help
Ewa
P2-D2 says
Hi,
To show control we put in 100% of the subsidiary’s assets and liabilities.
PUP adjustments are made when there is unsold inventory at the reporting date, regardless of who sold it to whom. The key about who sells it is linked to where the adjustment to retained earnings is made.
If P sells it we adjust their retained earnings.
If S sells it we adjust their retained earnings.
Thanks.
sguhman says
Hi
Not sure on the Ppe . You add in 100% of subsidiary 5k and not 75% of this value?
Also not sure about pup , do we only adjust if parent sells to subsidiary?
I have seen thru another lecture by another provider that if there is selling between sub and parent this should be eliminated, however I have seen thru another provider that we only adjust this if parent seeks to subsidiary but not if subsidiary sells to parent?