I have the same question as above on the equity element in the scenario of redemption. We debited the liability with 100, but are being left with the 5.2 on equity. Shouldn’t that also be derecognized since the liability & associated option to translate into shares have been closed?
Yes I have the same question. What would happen with the balance of 5.2 in Equity if bond holder doesn’t want to convert to share? Is it that we will reduce the interest expense?
In the 2nd link you provided there is an example but they only mention about convert of the bond to share. They didn’t show the case of bond redemption. Can you help to explain for us?
Hi, I think the discount factor he just did 1/1.06 for first year however, for second year Chris did 1/1.06 to power of 2 which i think should have done 2/1.06 to power 2.
azreenazaar says
could you explain embedded derivatives and how are embedded derivatives accounted for?
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ClaudiaIancu says
Hi,
I have the same question as above on the equity element in the scenario of redemption. We debited the liability with 100, but are being left with the 5.2 on equity. Shouldn’t that also be derecognized since the liability & associated option to translate into shares have been closed?
Thank you!
doantuananh293 says
Yes I have the same question. What would happen with the balance of 5.2 in Equity if bond holder doesn’t want to convert to share? Is it that we will reduce the interest expense?
hidniiman says
your answer is different from the answer in lecture notes. PV of liability in the jtes stated 94.8 while in the vid 93.85
wgk says
Rounding errors.
robfinch2222 says
What happens to the equity element, if the equity element of the debt is never exercised? Does it get derecognised or stay where it is forever?
doantuananh293 says
Good morning Sir,
In the 2nd link you provided there is an example but they only mention about convert of the bond to share. They didn’t show the case of bond redemption. Can you help to explain for us?
Thank you
dkdanke says
Hello everyone how did he got the discount factor and present values i’m lost. Thank you
khalidsadaat19 says
Hi, I think the discount factor he just did 1/1.06 for first year however, for second year Chris did 1/1.06 to power of 2 which i think should have done 2/1.06 to power 2.
wgk says
yr1 – 1/1.06^1
yr2 – 1/1.06^2
yr3 – 1/1.06^3
ProfLuqman01 says
You can also use the PV table in AFM to get the discounting values and multiply with cash received (4) to get the PV.
Billy says
The balance c/f is not nil as I continued calculation. Can you further explain?
Saad says
bro rounding off issue
Billy says
It is not rounding error, the remaining balancing at the end of year 3 is around $4m. I wonder if effective rate is not 7.67%. Please explain.
qfeaver says
As sir has taken effective rate to be 7.67%, but its 6.34% instead.
dkdanke says
Please use the updated version of the study note. Mine also has the 6,34% so changed it to the 7,67%.
wgk says
Using 6.34% gives a “nil” balance at end of year 3:
yr1: 93.85 + 5.95 – 4 = 95.80
yr2: 95.80 + 6.07 – 4 = 97.87
yr3: 97.87 + 6.20 -104 = “nil”