Sir, in question 5 they told that bank statement balance is $1920 overdrawn. that means 1920 negative nah? if it is yes, the answer should be, statement balance (1920) + Lodgements 192 Corrected cash balance (1728)
Hi sir, In question 4, it said that the dishourned cheque of 1080 was debited instead of credited so that’s mean we have to deduct the cheque from our cash balance. I wonder why we have to add the double of 1080? Thank you in advance.
When the cheque was first received we debited cash. When it was cancelled we should have credited cash but instead we debited (wrongly). So we need to credit cash to cancel the wrong debit, and then we need to credit again to put in the correct entry.
Have you watched my free lectures on bank reconciliations?
I explain this in my free lectures. The overdraft showing on the bank statement will be bigger than it should be because there are deposits (lodgements) that have not yet appeared. When the money does appear in the bank statement the overdraft will reduce.
Yes we deduct the amount shown on cheque in the cash book balance if we make payment. But if this cheque dishonoured don’t we have to remove this amount completely from the cash book balance entering the amount on the credit side? I am confused 馃檨
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The dishonoured cheque was debited but should have been credited. So we credit once to cancel the debit that should not be there, and then credit a second time to put in the credit entry.
Did you watch the free lectures before attempting the test?
Can i just clarify question 5 please? I had credited back the dishonoured cheque to the cash account as it was dishonoured on 28th December, so as at 31st December it was already dishonoured. I assumed that the company was reconciling the account after the 31st December (as is usual practice) when a bank statement is received, so it did not matter that the company was not aware of the dishonoured cheque at the time, it would certainly have been aware of it after, once the statement was received. The cheque would be credited to the account and then debited when it has been dishonoured, so both sides would appear on the bank statement.
Am I over-thinking the answer, or would that not normally be the case? Does this question assume that the transactions will not appear on a bank statement at all?
They are reconciling when they receive the bank statement, and it is only when they get the statement that they will know that the cheque was dishonoured. It is only then that they can correct the cash account, and until they do the cash account balance will not agree with the bank statement. This is what happens in practice also.
Have you watched the free lectures on bank reconciliations? (Because obviously there is no point in attempting the test if not).
The answer is completely correct!
The original statement in the questionis incorrect because the unpresented cheques increase the overdraft and the deposits credited after date reduce the overdraft.
Dear sir, In question 4.The cash account balance shows $ 13620 is an overdrawn balance, thats means its a nagative balance , Then why we calculate as + 13620 -300+1080*2 ?, we should calculate as -13620-300+1080*2 , please clear it to me sir.
You will know from our free lectures that a dishonoured cheque should be credited in the cash account.
Here it had been debited instead of credited, and so to correct it we need to credit once (to cancel the debit) and then credit a second time to make the correct entry.
Hello, i would like to ask regarding question Number 5, Shouldn’t we deduct 192? because it is unpresented cheque, isn’t it? And also adjustments regarding dishonoured cheque we make only in cash book?
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MuhammedSaleem says
Sir,
in question 5 they told that bank statement balance is $1920 overdrawn. that means 1920 negative nah?
if it is yes, the answer should be,
statement balance (1920)
+ Lodgements 192
Corrected cash balance (1728)
is my workings correct???
John Moffat says
No, your workings are not correct.
The $192 is a cheque drawn by the company and is therefore an unpresented cheque (not a lodgement).
So it makes the overdraft bigger, not smaller.
(You can see the workings for the correct answers by clicking on ‘review quiz’ after you have submitted your answers)
Iniss says
Hi sir,
In question 4, it said that the dishourned cheque of 1080 was debited instead of credited so that’s mean we have to deduct the cheque from our cash balance. I wonder why we have to add the double of 1080?
Thank you in advance.
John Moffat says
When the cheque was first received we debited cash. When it was cancelled we should have credited cash but instead we debited (wrongly).
So we need to credit cash to cancel the wrong debit, and then we need to credit again to put in the correct entry.
Have you watched my free lectures on bank reconciliations?
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John Moffat says
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Thank you sir, this was a great quiz. Got 80% because I misread some parts of question 3. I’ll try my best to be more careful in the future.
tushargujral says
dear sir
in question 1 I didn’t get the deposited after date why it reduces the overdraft balance can you explain here
John Moffat says
I explain this in my free lectures. The overdraft showing on the bank statement will be bigger than it should be because there are deposits (lodgements) that have not yet appeared. When the money does appear in the bank statement the overdraft will reduce.
brandonmpepo says
thank you for this
jalalhidayatov84 says
Yes we deduct the amount shown on cheque in the cash book balance if we make payment. But if this cheque dishonoured don’t we have to remove this amount completely from the cash book balance entering the amount on the credit side? I am confused 馃檨
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John Moffat says
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(But do make sure you have a Revision Kit from one of the ACCA approved publishers so that you have lots more questions to practice.)
olumidey2k says
is the mock exam not enough to prepare for the exam?how is it different from the revision kit from your ACCA approuved publishers ?
John Moffat says
No – one mock exam is not enough. You need to practice lots of questions and do more mock exams – the Revision Kit has lots of questions and several mock exams.
zuhal says
Thank you for clarifications.
John Moffat says
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ArtistInara says
In question 4 is written that 300 has been entered twice, so why we reducing 300, not adding?
mesum5 says
because standing order in this question is a payment so it reduce by 300
John Moffat says
And also remember that we are overdrawn. Removing one of the two payments will reduce the overdraft.
jchakari says
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John Moffat says
But remember these are only short tests and so buy a Revision Kit from one of the ACCA approved publishers because they are full of practice questions 馃檪
suha12 says
Dear sir,
i would like you to clarify the question no 4, in the answer i did not understand why 1080 is multiplied by 2?
John Moffat says
The dishonoured cheque was debited but should have been credited. So we credit once to cancel the debit that should not be there, and then credit a second time to put in the credit entry.
Did you watch the free lectures before attempting the test?
suha12 says
Thank you for the answer.
Yes i have watched the free lectures, just i thought i should credit 1080 once to cancel the debit.
John Moffat says
You are welcome 馃檪
tracyjaybee says
Can i just clarify question 5 please? I had credited back the dishonoured cheque to the cash account as it was dishonoured on 28th December, so as at 31st December it was already dishonoured. I assumed that the company was reconciling the account after the 31st December (as is usual practice) when a bank statement is received, so it did not matter that the company was not aware of the dishonoured cheque at the time, it would certainly have been aware of it after, once the statement was received. The cheque would be credited to the account and then debited when it has been dishonoured, so both sides would appear on the bank statement.
Am I over-thinking the answer, or would that not normally be the case? Does this question assume that the transactions will not appear on a bank statement at all?
John Moffat says
They are reconciling when they receive the bank statement, and it is only when they get the statement that they will know that the cheque was dishonoured. It is only then that they can correct the cash account, and until they do the cash account balance will not agree with the bank statement. This is what happens in practice also.
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mirrabbi says
Sir,
I can not understand the solution of question no 1…please check your ans and revised it to me
John Moffat says
Have you watched the free lectures on bank reconciliations? (Because obviously there is no point in attempting the test if not).
The answer is completely correct!
The original statement in the questionis incorrect because the unpresented cheques increase the overdraft and the deposits credited after date reduce the overdraft.
sukhdebacca says
Dear sir, In question 4.The cash account balance shows $ 13620 is an overdrawn balance, thats means its a nagative balance , Then why we calculate as + 13620 -300+1080*2 ?, we should calculate as -13620-300+1080*2 , please clear it to me sir.
sukhdebacca says
sorry sir the equation should be -13620+300-1080*2 =- 15480 isn’t it sir.
John Moffat says
And 15,480 overdrawn is what is shown as the correct answer!! It is irrelevant how you show your workings because nobody will look at them 馃檪
tracizzle says
Hi John, I am confused about Q4 -I don’t understand the cheque being credited twice – can you help explain it?
Thanks
John Moffat says
You will know from our free lectures that a dishonoured cheque should be credited in the cash account.
Here it had been debited instead of credited, and so to correct it we need to credit once (to cancel the debit) and then credit a second time to make the correct entry.
nigar96 says
Hello,
i would like to ask regarding question Number 5, Shouldn’t we deduct 192? because it is unpresented cheque, isn’t it? And also adjustments regarding dishonoured cheque we make only in cash book?
John Moffat says
Yes we should deduct 192, and the answer has deducted it. It makes the overdraft bigger.
And yes, adjustments regarding the dishonoured cheque are only made in the cash book. They do not affect the balance on the bank statement.
So the answer and the workings are correct 馃檪
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John Moffat says
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