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The cost of capital (part 1) – ACCA (AFM) lectures

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  1. IUKACA says

    March 29, 2024 at 4:28 pm

    Sir you mentioned that theoretically market value is the present value of the estimated future cashflows a shareholder expects discounted at the “cost of equity”. So why in example 6 part C, you have not discounted the future dividend cashflows over the cost of equity?
    And even if we rearrange the DVM formula for PO, its equivalent to Po = Do/Ke

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    • John Moffat says

      March 29, 2024 at 5:09 pm

      The MV in 2 years time is the PV of the future dividends at that time (i.e. from time 3 to infinity).

      It is simply that since all the future dividends in 2 years time are higher than the future dividends ‘now’ by 2 years growth, the PV of those dividends will automatically be higher that the market value ‘now’ by 2 years growth.

      You last sentence is only true if there is no dividend growth.

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  2. annagarwal says

    February 12, 2024 at 11:19 am

    Greetings Sir,

    In example 6c, estimate the market value per share in 2 years time, my calculation shows the answer as $3.93. Please help guide me where I am going wrong.

    Warmest Regards,
    A Student

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    • John Moffat says

      February 12, 2024 at 7:39 pm

      Given that the dividends are growing at 6% per year, the market value will also grow at 6% per year.

      Given that the current MV is $2.80, then in 2 years time it will be 2.80 x 1.06^2 = 3.15.

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  3. imjy98 says

    November 9, 2023 at 2:45 am

    Can you please explain what is the difference between (a) and (b) of Example 8? At 27:00 of your lecture, it is mentioned that very rare to ask “(a) return to investors” but usually ask “(b) cost to company” but it seems like there is no difference in question solving between (a) and (b) except for applying tax effect on interest. Or is the tax effect IS the only difference between return to investors and cost to the company? Thank you for your wonderful lecture!

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    • John Moffat says

      November 9, 2023 at 7:18 am

      Yes. As far as debt finance is concerned, the only difference is that the company gets tax relief on the debt interest which makes the cost to the company lower.

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  4. alin.sivi says

    November 6, 2023 at 9:38 am

    in ex6 C can we increase the dividend by 6.75% for two years and then discount them at 14.375%? I got 3.16 (after adding initial 2.8) as the MV of share

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    • John Moffat says

      November 6, 2023 at 4:25 pm

      Although is gives a value close to the correct value, it is just a coincidence. That approach does not work.

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  5. adelletery-lewis says

    December 19, 2022 at 5:04 pm

    Thank you so much for these videos!!

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    • John Moffat says

      December 20, 2022 at 8:30 am

      You are welcome 馃檪

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  6. SirPEK says

    April 13, 2022 at 12:15 pm

    Please, help me don’t understand how you arrived at 0.0419 or 4.19%.
    I clearly understood other parts

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    • John Moffat says

      April 13, 2022 at 2:26 pm

      I assume that you are referring to example 4, in which case we take the fourth root of 33,000/28,000 and then subtract 1 from the answer.
      ( I assume that you have a scientific calculator and know how to calculate a 4th root?)

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      • emlo123 says

        November 12, 2022 at 2:55 pm

        Hi, would you mind explaining how you got here, please?

      • John Moffat says

        November 13, 2022 at 8:27 am

        Are you meaning the actual calculation of the 4th root of 33,000/28,000 (because I explain why we want it in the lecture)?

        It depends on which calculator you are using, but on my calculator you divide 33,000 by 28,000 and then you take it to the power of 0.25 (which is the same as taking the fourth root). Then you subtract 1 from the answer, which gives you 0.0491 (which is the same as 4.91%).

  7. AshleyJhaveri says

    May 30, 2021 at 11:02 am

    Which book is he referring to when he asks us to look at the examples? Could anyone please help answer this

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    • John Moffat says

      May 30, 2021 at 1:50 pm

      The free lecture notes that are referred to at the start of every lecture. You can download them by following the link listed at the top of this page!

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  8. momanyi says

    April 29, 2020 at 11:11 pm

    Great.

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  9. tojik says

    August 4, 2019 at 3:36 pm

    Hi John, many thanks for excellent lecture. A question on Example 6 (c)
    – you estimated market value per share in 2 years time by growing the price at dividends growth rate, logic is clear (assuming the price will be driven by dividends growth only) = $3.19

    I thought I should get the same result if I actually use Ke and G in Growth Model formula (which should be the same), the result is different for some reason: P(2 years) = 20*(1+0.0675)^2 / 0.1438 – 0.0675 = $2.99

    Would you have a view on why its different, shouldn’t be different in theory (assuming price is driven by dividends growth only)

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    • shanky95 says

      September 22, 2019 at 8:13 pm

      Hi there won;t be any difference. You are looking at it right except a little calculation mistake.
      The right calculation is, P(2 years from now) = 20*(1+0.0675)^3 / 0.1438 – 0.0675 = $3.19

      Reason for using (1.0675)^3 is as below:
      In growth model – to calculate market value of today, we use dividend in one year’s time [Do(1+g)], and therefore – to calculate market value in 2 years time, we need to use dividend in 3 year’s time [Do(1+g)^3].

      I hope it explains.

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      • Noah098 says

        October 22, 2020 at 1:28 pm

        That makes so much sense! Thank you so much @shanky95! Really helped as i had a similar doubt as tojik.

  10. acca says

    February 17, 2019 at 9:14 pm

    Please can you advise why sometimes in Ke=Rf+Be(Rm-rf), Rf is deducted from Rm, sometimes nit. I sm very confused!

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    • John Moffat says

      February 18, 2019 at 6:29 am

      Rf is always subtracted from Rm !!!

      Rm is the market return. What is confusing you is that Rm – Rf is the market premium, and questions sometimes tell you the market return but sometimes tell you the market premium instead.

      I do explain this in the lectures.

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      • acca says

        February 18, 2019 at 9:55 am

        Thank you so much for the nice and quick explanation

  11. Elena says

    January 26, 2019 at 8:16 pm

    About the formula
    Ke=div*(1+g)/P+g
    I wonder why is g added as a second augend.
    Could it be explained in this way?

    The sh.holders want to have growth not only for the dividends but for the whole business, i.e. for the P (price of a share), so the total sum of a year return = div(1+g) + P*g. The percent of return = Ke = total_growth / P = we come to the initial formula. Is it correct?

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    • John Moffat says

      January 27, 2019 at 10:03 am

      Not really.
      It is a rearrangement of the formula for the market value (Po) which can only be properly explained by proving it. It is easy to prove if you are good at maths.
      However, both explaining and proving it are outside the syllabus 馃檪

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      • Rupesh.Bhandari says

        October 24, 2021 at 5:45 am

        Yeah that’s the correct.

        K = [ D(1+g) + g] / P

        Rearranging

        K = [D(1+g) + P*g] / P

        K = (Dividend growth + Price growth) / Price

        K = Total Growth / Price

  12. avnigilda says

    December 12, 2018 at 5:13 am

    Hi John,
    Question 6 part b needs calculation of cost of equity. The question has given a MV of $2.80 and EPS of 32c. Can’t we use the formula for cost of equity = 1/Price earning ratio ?

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    • John Moffat says

      December 12, 2018 at 11:44 am

      No – that doesn’t give the cost of equity!! That gives the earnings per share, which is something different.

      Have you not watched the free lectures on this?

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  13. ayeshatabani says

    December 6, 2018 at 7:52 am

    Hi John,
    The answer to example 4 is coming negative -0.48. It’s not coming 4.19%. I have tried doing it multiple times!
    Can you please check this?

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    • marslan says

      December 6, 2018 at 3:38 pm

      g=(33000/28000)^1/4 -1= 1.0419 -1= 0.0419= 4.19%

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      • John Moffat says

        December 6, 2018 at 5:16 pm

        Thank you Marslan 馃檪

    • Giuseppe says

      January 23, 2019 at 5:43 am

      Ayeshatabani, If the value has grown during the time (from 28k to 33k), how is it possible the the growth is negative? Must be positive! 馃檪

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  14. claudia1 says

    October 26, 2018 at 6:50 pm

    Thank you sir. I was wondering though….why we need to plus the growth, when it was already added to the dividend,,,,do x 1+g for next year’s dividend. Thanks

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    • John Moffat says

      October 27, 2018 at 11:16 am

      Because dividends keep growing after next years dividend. To explain fully would require me to prove the formula – it is not difficult to prove but would be wasting time given that you cannot be asked to prove it in the exam 馃檪

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  15. said1988 says

    October 8, 2018 at 2:20 pm

    Hello Sir,

    Thank you for the lectures,

    I have a question concerning the example 6 part C: Market value per share in 2 years time:

    Is ‘g’ dividend growth equal to the growth in share price?

    Thank you again

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    • said1988 says

      October 8, 2018 at 2:22 pm

      I just need more explanation please

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      • John Moffat says

        October 8, 2018 at 5:50 pm

        Yes. Because the market value is the present value of future dividends, the market price will grow at the same rate as the growth in dividends.

      • said1988 says

        October 9, 2018 at 12:01 pm

        It makes sense, thank you sir

      • John Moffat says

        October 9, 2018 at 7:10 pm

        You are welcome 馃檪

  16. techie says

    September 14, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    Thanks a lot.

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    • John Moffat says

      September 15, 2018 at 10:21 am

      You are welcome 馃檪

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  17. wincott2 says

    September 1, 2018 at 5:54 am

    I鈥檓 a bit unclear how you got the answer for the example 3.1 under chapter 6. (1+g) = 4 root (33,000/28,000).

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    • John Moffat says

      September 1, 2018 at 9:57 am

      But I explain this example in the lecture! If you are asking how to calculate a fourth root, then you need a scientific calculator.

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      • wincott2 says

        September 1, 2018 at 12:17 pm

        Thanks Sir I used the wrong process.

      • John Moffat says

        September 1, 2018 at 3:28 pm

        You are welcome 馃檪

  18. amaldev5125 says

    August 18, 2018 at 9:07 am

    Hi,

    1) Discounting dividend give current value of company.
    2) Discounting entire cash flow also give current value of company.

    So my question is how the dividend valuation model and discounted cash flow model give same result when cash flow include dividend also?

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    • John Moffat says

      August 18, 2018 at 10:05 am

      Discounting dividends at the cost of equity gives the value of the equity.
      Discounting the free cash flows at the WACC gives the value of the company – equity plus debt.

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      • amaldev5125 says

        August 18, 2018 at 10:14 am

        What if the cash flow is after interest that is cash flow to equity?

      • John Moffat says

        August 18, 2018 at 11:07 am

        Yes, and this is all explained in later lectures on the valuation of mergers and acquisitions – I do not know why you are asking this under a lecture on cost of capital!

      • amaldev5125 says

        August 18, 2018 at 11:28 am

        In that lecture cash flow to equity is discounted with cost of equity, dividend valuation also with cost of equity so I got confused.

        I got this doubt, when I watched this video. Sorry and leave it.

        Thanks for the reply

      • John Moffat says

        August 18, 2018 at 5:52 pm

        You are welcome, and no problem 馃檪

  19. haroon says

    August 12, 2018 at 3:42 pm

    I don’t understand how the 110 is appearing in example 8 part a of chapter 6….plz help

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  20. kelsnjoku says

    July 26, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    Hello sir,

    In a situation where dividend grows at a given rate for a given number of years, who can cost of equity be computed?

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    • John Moffat says

      July 27, 2018 at 7:05 am

      Given that the dividend valuation formula is working backwards from the premise that the market value is the present value of future expected dividends discounted at the shareholders required rate of return, it would be illogical for shareholders to be expecting dividends as you state (and could not happen in the exam).
      Revising this by watching the relevant PM (old F9) lectures may help you.

      Most commonly in the exam we would be using CAPM to calculate the cost of equity anyway (and not using the dividend valuation formula.

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