John. thank you, makes sense. So you could get forward rates which are worse if markets are expected to stay the same or decrease? Would they just show this as 2 negative numbers for the “3m forward”?
Yes, you can get forward rates. No there are not negative numbers – the differences are shown as pm and dis, as I explain in the lecture. However the current examiner does not bother with this – he just states the actual forward rates directly.
Why? The forward rates are fixing a rate to use in the future. If the markets are expecting the spot rate to get better then the forward rate will also be better.
sir, I want to know the details about where there is multiple forward rate and question ask me using different forward rate other than the given forward rate in question.
sir the smaller units mentioned would always be of the first currency? If not then it would be clearly mentioned whether the small currency units belong to 1st currency or 2nd? Or it would be left on us to conjecture?
The first rate is the rate to use if the company is buying the first mentioned currency. The second rate is the rate to use if the company is selling the first mentioned currency.
great lecture! so in conclusion, we applied the concept of buy the first currency at low rate and sell it at high rate. That is because we are seeing it on the bank perspective right? and at the same time from the concept, in company perspective, co. always pay at high value and receive at low value. Is my understanding on this correct?
That is how they make a profit as I explain in the lectures. However which of the two rates we use depends on which way round we are converting (i.e. which of the two currencies is being converted into the other currency).
I explain how to decide which rate to use in my lectures (and it is always whichever rate is worse for the company because, again, it is the bank that makes the profit).
nedders says
John. thank you, makes sense.
So you could get forward rates which are worse if markets are expected to stay the same or decrease?
Would they just show this as 2 negative numbers for the “3m forward”?
John Moffat says
Yes, you can get forward rates. No there are not negative numbers – the differences are shown as pm and dis, as I explain in the lecture. However the current examiner does not bother with this – he just states the actual forward rates directly.
nedders says
What doesn’t make sense is that the one month rate is better than the current spot rate.
Ex 3, using current spot rate 200k/ 1.482 = 134953.
Whereas the forward contract is only 134138, so we are paying less.
I would have expected this forward rate to be worse than the current spot rate
John Moffat says
Why? The forward rates are fixing a rate to use in the future. If the markets are expecting the spot rate to get better then the forward rate will also be better.
dimention999 says
sir, I want to know the details about where there is multiple forward rate and question ask me using different forward rate other than the given forward rate in question.
Noah098 says
sir the smaller units mentioned would always be of the first currency? If not then it would be clearly mentioned whether the small currency units belong to 1st currency or 2nd? Or it would be left on us to conjecture?
Many thanks as always:))
John Moffat says
The first rate is the rate to use if the company is buying the first mentioned currency. The second rate is the rate to use if the company is selling the first mentioned currency.
danielthesecond says
What do you mean by first mentioned currency?
John Moffat says
If the exchange rate is quoted as a $/€ rate, then the first currency is $’s.
I do spend a lot of time explaining this in this lecture!!
mirliz says
great lecture! so in conclusion, we applied the concept of buy the first currency at low rate and sell it at high rate. That is because we are seeing it on the bank perspective right? and at the same time from the concept, in company perspective, co. always pay at high value and receive at low value.
Is my understanding on this correct?
John Moffat says
Yes – if the company is buying currency they pay the higher amount, and if they are selling currency they receive the lower amount 🙂
mirliz says
thank you so much! 🙂
edgar says
After watching this lecture I am now able to understand what I have been struggling to understand
John Moffat says
Great 🙂
zaidrafiqkhan says
In simple, We have to pay always higher and receive always lower amount, if we translate into Exchange rates.
Am I correct John?
John Moffat says
Correct 🙂
dieazbie says
I thought we buy currency at a higher rate and sell currency at a lower rate ?
If we buy at a higher rate then it’s meant to be divided by 1.4970?
Charity says
I learnt that banks buy low and sell high . Thats how they make a profit
John Moffat says
That is how they make a profit as I explain in the lectures. However which of the two rates we use depends on which way round we are converting (i.e. which of the two currencies is being converted into the other currency).
I explain how to decide which rate to use in my lectures (and it is always whichever rate is worse for the company because, again, it is the bank that makes the profit).
imanyuaud says
Thanks it was very helpful lecture..
John Moffat says
Thank you for your comment 🙂