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Consolidation loan , in acca interim dec x8

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  • April 1, 2013 at 4:17 pm #121231
    mr n
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    Consolidation question from that interim dec 08 paper,
    date of acq: 1 July 2007
    reporting date: 30 June 2008

    Borough High Street
    Interest 10,000 (10,000) –
    During the year Borough gave high substantial loans, most of was repaid shortly before the yr end. The final balance of $5000 was paid on 10 July 2008. The interest charged in the High’s Income statement and the interest receivable in Borough’s Income statement represents interest on this loan,

    It asked to construct income statement n b/sheet,
    for that loan adjustment, the interest received and finance cost should be eliminated in consolidated IS?am i Rgt?
    But i dnt knw wat adjustment should be made with regards to the loan in bsheet?please guide me

    April 5, 2013 at 4:29 pm #121569
    MikeLittle
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    If I have understood your question correctly, then yes, the interest receivable and payable will cancel on consolidation. But so too with the value of the loan receivable and payable.

    Does that answer it?

    April 5, 2013 at 8:33 pm #121583
    mr n
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    It partly answers it..the interest of 10,000 will cancel each other in consolidated IS..we both agree on that but is there any adjustment or anythg to do with that remaing 5000 that was paid after reportg yr..should it go somewhere in consolidated bsheet?

    April 6, 2013 at 4:08 pm #121617
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    No – and if it did, it would cancel. Borough must have an outstanding receivable of 5,000 and High Street must have an outstanding payable of the same amount. And they cancel.

    I suppose it’s possible that I have misunderstood your question and that High Street has paid the 5,000 but Borough hasn’t received it until after the year end. If that’s the case, it’s 5,000 cash in transit and, at the year end, Borough will still be showing a receivable of 5,000 but High Street will have a zero balance shown as owing to Borough.

    So, in Borough’s records, Dr Cash and Credit the High Street Receivable with 5,000.

    Now there’s neither a receivable nor a payable to cancel

    Maybe that answers it for you?

    April 6, 2013 at 5:08 pm #121626
    mr n
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    from the 1st part of your reply, say you have when consolidatg bsheet u have for receivables 8000+1000
    and payables 9000+1000…should i decuct 5000 from both of these 2 adjustments?

    April 7, 2013 at 1:23 pm #121726
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    Say in Parent we have receivables of 33,000 and in Subsidiary we have receivables of 48,000

    In Parent we have cash 16,000 and in Subsidiary we have cash 14,000

    In Parent we have payables of 22,000 and in Subsidiary we have payables of 24,000

    In Parent’s receivables is 5,000 receivable from Subsidiary but Subsidiary has already paid 2,000 of that amount which has not yet been received by Parent

    In Parent, Dr Cash and Credit Receivables 2,000

    That now leaves 3,000 in Parent receivable from Subsidiary and takes Receivables now down to 33,000 – 2,000 = 31,000

    Now cancel the remaining 3,000 intra-group balance by reducing both receivables and payables by the 3,000

    So, in your answer in the exam you should find:

    “Receivables ( 33,000 – 2,000 – 3,000 + 48,000 ) 76,000” and

    “Cash ( 16,000 + 2,000 + 14,000 ) 32,000” and

    “Payables ( 22,000 + 24,000 – 3,000 ) 43,000”

    Is that better?

    April 7, 2013 at 4:18 pm #121842
    mr n
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    yes much better and clearer..a last clarification though..in the original scenario i asked u, the final balance of 5000 was paid after on 10th july..after the yr end..which means that it was still owing balance at the yr end rgt? so using your figures then the final answer would be
    Receivables 33000+48000-5000
    Payables 22000+24000-5000

    please confirm

    April 8, 2013 at 6:40 am #121883
    MikeLittle
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    Yes

    April 8, 2013 at 12:33 pm #121912
    mr n
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    thxx a lot sir

    April 8, 2013 at 8:35 pm #121933
    MikeLittle
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    Welcome

    April 17, 2013 at 5:52 pm #122756
    Anonymous
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    thanks a lot sir (mike)

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