ques no.2, the answer, Joint product – “a product which is produced simultaneously with other products and is of similar value to at least one of the other products”. How can they have similar value.
Quesion number 4, as similar excercise that Professor has given, but I still wonder why in that period we just have sales for product A and B are less than what we produce, but when we put them into joint production cost (where we calculate the total value of production) we did count all 20,000 products, but not only 15,000 for A or 18,000 for B? Thank you.
The joint cost has to be split based on the sales value of the production even though not all the production is sold in this period. The reason is that the rest of the production would be in inventory and would be sold in the following period.
All the while I’ve been thinking that joint costs are apportioned based on production units. It’s surprising that this time it was based on sales units. I was wondering why are the joint costs apportioned based on sales units?
But I explain the reason in my free lectures!!! Did you not watch the lectures before attempting these questions?
Suppose we produced 10,000 units of each of 2 products, X and Y. Suppose all 10,000 of X were sold this year, but none of the 10,000 of Y were sold this year but instead remain in inventory and are sold next year.
It would be ridiculous then for all of the costs to be charged just to X. That would mean that the 10,000 of Y ended up with a cost of zero, which would be nonsense 🙂
I’ve watched the lecture before referring the book because of which I was able to understand the concept and thereby solve many questions but maybe I’m missing something.
I was saying the same thing that costs must be apportioned to the units produced and maybe not the sales.
For question 4, shouldn’t it be like
$350K*(15000/33000) = $159,090.90
And then $159,090.90/15000 = $10.61 per unit for product P
No. Question 4 says to apportion on a market value basis, not on a units basis, and so we use the sales value of what was produced (as per the answer that appears when you ‘review quiz’ after submitting it).
Roman007 says
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sagarkchauhan123 says
ques no.2, the answer, Joint product – “a product which is produced simultaneously with other products and is of similar value to at least one of the other products”. How can they have similar value.
John Moffat says
Why not? If they are produced in the same process then they are very likely to have similar unit selling prices.
Did you watch the free lecture before attempting the test?
CHEW1019 says
I think having a similar value is kind of vague. That’s why he has this question.
anhduong11 says
Quesion number 4, as similar excercise that Professor has given, but I still wonder why in that period we just have sales for product A and B are less than what we produce, but when we put them into joint production cost (where we calculate the total value of production) we did count all 20,000 products, but not only 15,000 for A or 18,000 for B? Thank you.
John Moffat says
The joint cost has to be split based on the sales value of the production even though not all the production is sold in this period. The reason is that the rest of the production would be in inventory and would be sold in the following period.
Forde2345 says
Sir could you confirm when dealing with apportion whether by physical basis or market value basis you use the production units always
John Moffat says
Yes you do.
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hermela says
Why joint production have to have same value atleast for one other?
John Moffat says
They don’t! Have you watched the free lectures on this?
sayedaamal says
All the while I’ve been thinking that joint costs are apportioned based on production units. It’s surprising that this time it was based on sales units. I was wondering why are the joint costs apportioned based on sales units?
John Moffat says
But I explain the reason in my free lectures!!! Did you not watch the lectures before attempting these questions?
Suppose we produced 10,000 units of each of 2 products, X and Y. Suppose all 10,000 of X were sold this year, but none of the 10,000 of Y were sold this year but instead remain in inventory and are sold next year.
It would be ridiculous then for all of the costs to be charged just to X. That would mean that the 10,000 of Y ended up with a cost of zero, which would be nonsense 🙂
sayedaamal says
I’ve watched the lecture before referring the book because of which I was able to understand the concept and thereby solve many questions but maybe I’m missing something.
I was saying the same thing that costs must be apportioned to the units produced and maybe not the sales.
For question 4, shouldn’t it be like
$350K*(15000/33000) = $159,090.90
And then $159,090.90/15000 = $10.61 per unit for product P
John Moffat says
No. Question 4 says to apportion on a market value basis, not on a units basis, and so we use the sales value of what was produced (as per the answer that appears when you ‘review quiz’ after submitting it).
sayedaamal says
I’m really sorry. I meant Q3 which was on a physical unit basis.
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John Moffat says
Thank you for your comment 🙂