You do not need to know the selling price. As I explain in my free lectures, the only difference between the marginal and the absorption profits is the change in the inventory over the year multiplied by the fixed overhead absorption rate.
(If you click on ‘review quiz’ after submitting your answers you will see the full workings.)
Congratulations, I got 1/5 correct, but this was my first attempt. I’ll go back to the study pack and review then hopefully I’ll do better on my second attemp
Standard absorption rate = Budgeted overheads($258,750) / Budgeted machine hours(11,250 hours) = $23 per hour
Overheads actually absorbed = Actual machine hours(10,980 hours) x Standard absorption rate($23) = $252,540
Actual total overheads = $254,692
I understand how to get the answer but I have few questions to sort out my brain:)
My question is when the “Standard absorption rate” was determined. Was it like the beginning of the production year to use the standard rate for the rest of the year?
What is the timing of calculating the “Overheads actually absorbed”? Is it like the end of every month or quarter (or any other timing that each manager prefers) AFTER that period of production ends, and managers use the number to make a profit statement?
What is the timing of calculating “Actual total overheads”? Would it take several weeks or months to collect the relevant cost data AFTER every period of production ends?
What you have written is correct. The standard cost is the budgeted cost which is determined in advance. The fixed overheads in the standard cost are absorbed using the budgeted fixed overheads and the budgeted production. At the end of the period they will know immediately what the actual fixed overheads were and if the total is different from the amount absorbed at standard cost, then to get the ‘correct’ profit they need to adjust for the difference between the actual total fixed overheads and the amount absorbed.
Hi Sir! Q 2) when it says” production O/H was underabsorped by $9400, i seems that actual Production O/H is $2,80,000+$9400.. The answer makes it a minus intead of addition, Could you please help?
To get the difference between marginal and absorption costing we do change in inventory multiplied by fixed cost. Why do we multiply by fixed cost only not variable cost?
Under marginal costing, inventory is valued only at the marginal cost. Under absorption costing, inventory is valued at the full absorption cost. The difference between the two is the fixed production overheads.
Have you not watched my free lectures, because I explain all of this in the lectures 🙂
But fo make sure that you also buy a Revision Kit from one of the ACCA approved publishers. It is vital to practice as many exam-standard questions as possible – these short tests are just meant as quick checks after each chapter 🙂
The examples in both lectures on absorption and marginal costing is giving us the selling price, hence allowing us to calculate the profit. Q1 and Q5 does not give us the selling price, so how can we calculate the profits then come up with the difference between absorption and marginal?
The question does not ask for the profits, it asks what the difference in the profits will be.
As I explain in my free lectures, the difference in the profits will always only be the change in inventory multiplied bu the fixed production overheads per unit.
When do we know we’ve had an over-absorption or under-absorption of overheads? Is it when we have a psitive answer that we get an over-absorption? Also, i know this is a little stupid but, is ‘normal level of activity’ referred to as Sales?
If the actual fixed overheads are more than the amount absorbed, then we have under-absorbed. If the actual fixed overheads are less than the amount absorbed, then we have over absorbed.
The normal level of activity is the level of production used to calculate the overhead absorption rate.
As I explain in my free lectures, the only difference ever between the absorption and marginal profits is the change in the inventory multiplied by the fixed production over heads per unit.
In this question, the fact that there was no opening inventory is irrelevant because whatever the opening inventory had been then the fact that they produced 17,500 units but only sold 15,000 units means that the inventory would have increased by 2,500 units. So the answer would still be the same.
on a third thought I think opening inventory is very rrelevant…… in the example of given, for example, February had a production of 9000 units but sold 11000 units. what guarantee would show a 2000 opening inventory had it not been a January scenario. and the fact that they mention no opening inventory i this case shows that an opening inventory option is possible.
If they produce 2,500 units more than they sell, then the inventory must increase by 2,500 units!!
Of course it is possible for there to be opening inventory, but if there was then the closing inventory would still be 2,500 more than the opening inventory and this is all that matters.
When calculating profit using marginal method, we exclude fixed cost, why is that we are multiplying the fixed cost rate by the difference of closing Inventory to get Marginal profit?
However with marginal costing we do not exclude fixed cost when arriving at the profit – we subtract the fixed cost from the contribution in order to arrive at the profit.
Also, the difference between the absorption profit and the marginal profit is always only the change in inventory multiplied by the fixed cost per unit.
All of this is explained in the free lectures. Did you watch them before attempting this test?
fruitella says
100%
adheeb says
hi sir
I question no 5 how do I figure out the selling price , it is very complicated, please explain to me.
thanks.
John Moffat says
You do not need to know the selling price. As I explain in my free lectures, the only difference between the marginal and the absorption profits is the change in the inventory over the year multiplied by the fixed overhead absorption rate.
(If you click on ‘review quiz’ after submitting your answers you will see the full workings.)
nyamabika says
Got 100% and am so excited thank you sir for the free lectures
financegirlie says
Congratulations, I got 1/5 correct, but this was my first attempt. I’ll go back to the study pack and review then hopefully I’ll do better on my second attemp
John Moffat says
Did you watch the free lectures? (If you watch the lectures you do not really need a Study Text – it is the Revision Kit that is essential 🙂 )
MelodyC says
Hi, sir. In question 3,
Standard absorption rate = Budgeted overheads($258,750) / Budgeted machine hours(11,250 hours) = $23 per hour
Overheads actually absorbed = Actual machine hours(10,980 hours) x Standard absorption rate($23) = $252,540
Actual total overheads = $254,692
I understand how to get the answer but I have few questions to sort out my brain:)
My question is when the “Standard absorption rate” was determined. Was it like the beginning of the production year to use the standard rate for the rest of the year?
What is the timing of calculating the “Overheads actually absorbed”? Is it like the end of every month or quarter (or any other timing that each manager prefers) AFTER that period of production ends, and managers use the number to make a profit statement?
What is the timing of calculating “Actual total overheads”? Would it take several weeks or months to collect the relevant cost data AFTER every period of production ends?
Please indicate if I misunderstood anything.
John Moffat says
What you have written is correct.
The standard cost is the budgeted cost which is determined in advance. The fixed overheads in the standard cost are absorbed using the budgeted fixed overheads and the budgeted production. At the end of the period they will know immediately what the actual fixed overheads were and if the total is different from the amount absorbed at standard cost, then to get the ‘correct’ profit they need to adjust for the difference between the actual total fixed overheads and the amount absorbed.
TANYASHARMA29 says
Hi Sir! Q 2) when it says” production O/H was underabsorped by $9400, i seems that actual Production O/H is $2,80,000+$9400.. The answer makes it a minus intead of addition,
Could you please help?
John Moffat says
If they were under absorbed it means that the amount absorbed was less than the actual. Have you watched my free lectures on this?
sherazsaied says
Hi John
To get the difference between marginal and absorption costing we do change in inventory multiplied by fixed cost. Why do we multiply by fixed cost only not variable cost?
John Moffat says
Under marginal costing, inventory is valued only at the marginal cost.
Under absorption costing, inventory is valued at the full absorption cost.
The difference between the two is the fixed production overheads.
Have you not watched my free lectures, because I explain all of this in the lectures 🙂
sherazsaied says
I watched your lectures but abandoned studying since covid. I have now come back to revise.
ellezahari says
Sir, as for question 2, does budgeted hour equal to actual hours if not given budgeted hours?
John Moffat says
No, and for question 2 we do not need to know the budgeted hours.
njivan28 says
“No, and for question 2 we do not need to know the budgeted hours.’ Why because we use budgeted figures to workout OAR?
John Moffat says
But the amount absorbed is the actual hours multiplied by the absorption rate.
Radder says
Please I don’t understand relevant costing
John Moffat says
Why are you posting this as a comment under a lecture on marginal costing?
Relevant costing as a full topic is not relevant until Paper FM. In Paper MA it is only relevant in investment appraisal questions.
Nyaanga says
why don’t we include fixed selling costs in the calculations?
John Moffat says
It depends what calculations you are referring to!! Did you watch our free lectures before attempting this short test?
Asif110 says
Thank you for this shocking eye opener questions and their solutions. Will have less heart attack at examination time, lol.
John Moffat says
But fo make sure that you also buy a Revision Kit from one of the ACCA approved publishers. It is vital to practice as many exam-standard questions as possible – these short tests are just meant as quick checks after each chapter 🙂
izazwali13 says
i solve the test directly after watching the lecture and got 100% thank you sir John!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
konichan says
I could answer all the question but it took a lot time to come up with the way to solve
Thanks a lot for the lectures
John Moffat says
Thank you for your comment 🙂
5327900ALLEN says
Thanks much Sir
izazwali13 says
Thank you sir for this kind of tests i got 100% very very helpful the thing is that just read question carefully.
John Moffat says
You are welcome (but do make sure you buy a Revision Kit from one of the ACCA approved publishers so that you have lots more questions to practice 🙂 )
piszton says
Dear John,
The examples in both lectures on absorption and marginal costing is giving us the selling price, hence allowing us to calculate the profit.
Q1 and Q5 does not give us the selling price, so how can we calculate the profits then come up with the difference between absorption and marginal?
Thank you
John Moffat says
The question does not ask for the profits, it asks what the difference in the profits will be.
As I explain in my free lectures, the difference in the profits will always only be the change in inventory multiplied bu the fixed production overheads per unit.
piszton says
Thank you
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂
safashaikh19 says
When do we know we’ve had an over-absorption or under-absorption of overheads? Is it when we have a psitive answer that we get an over-absorption?
Also, i know this is a little stupid but, is ‘normal level of activity’ referred to as Sales?
John Moffat says
If the actual fixed overheads are more than the amount absorbed, then we have under-absorbed. If the actual fixed overheads are less than the amount absorbed, then we have over absorbed.
The normal level of activity is the level of production used to calculate the overhead absorption rate.
Have you watched my free lectures on this?
safashaikh19 says
Yes sir. Thank you very much!
Katcsy says
For question 2 if it’s under-absorbed, why is it deducting $9,400 instead of adding it back? Thank you in advance.
John Moffat says
It is under-absorbed then not enough has been charged. Charging more will reduce the profit.
smurts says
Hi. Johns. How would the solution (for question 4) been, had there been opening inventory. cheers
John Moffat says
As I explain in my free lectures, the only difference ever between the absorption and marginal profits is the change in the inventory multiplied by the fixed production over heads per unit.
In this question, the fact that there was no opening inventory is irrelevant because whatever the opening inventory had been then the fact that they produced 17,500 units but only sold 15,000 units means that the inventory would have increased by 2,500 units. So the answer would still be the same.
smurts says
you are right. many thanks.
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂
smurts says
on a third thought I think opening inventory is very rrelevant…… in the example of given, for example, February had a production of 9000 units but sold 11000 units. what guarantee would show a 2000 opening inventory had it not been a January scenario. and the fact that they mention no opening inventory i this case shows that an opening inventory option is possible.
John Moffat says
If they produce 2,500 units more than they sell, then the inventory must increase by 2,500 units!!
Of course it is possible for there to be opening inventory, but if there was then the closing inventory would still be 2,500 more than the opening inventory and this is all that matters.
Please watch the lecture again 🙂
Gabriel says
When calculating profit using marginal method, we exclude fixed cost, why is that we are multiplying the fixed cost rate by the difference of closing Inventory to get Marginal profit?
John Moffat says
I don’t know which question you are referring to.
However with marginal costing we do not exclude fixed cost when arriving at the profit – we subtract the fixed cost from the contribution in order to arrive at the profit.
Also, the difference between the absorption profit and the marginal profit is always only the change in inventory multiplied by the fixed cost per unit.
All of this is explained in the free lectures. Did you watch them before attempting this test?