Here are the results of the poll, you can still post your comments below, if students should be allowed to retake ACCA exam 1 month later? We will forward them to the ACCA
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Yes I think we should be allowed to retake the exam after one month, at least as an option. It is just ridiculous to wait six month to retake the failed exam, because I have already been study for some time, so why should I wait another six month for no reason especially when you are working full time and no longer 20 years old
I feel there is a point widely missed. Completing papers simply grants one part of the ACCA qualification. Yes there is precious theoretical knowledge and critical thinking moving forward but implementation is a completely different process. Hence the IFRS is issuing guidelines and not strict bureaucratic rules. I feel the argument between first time and second or third (or more) time passers is just narrowing the ability to see the wider implications the most important of which (in our profession at least) is efficiency. When someone completes all exams at first attempt and completes the papers in record time still has to go through the PER. In reverse someone who has managed to complete PER but not the papers still has to be examined. The point of resitting exams merely brings the completion time of the qualification to an average (with a standard deviation included). In other words, one should be qualified whenever all criteria (qualitative and quantitative) are met allowing the person to fully respond to the duties and requirements of the profession. I do not see how this is affected by resitting exams provided of course that the degree of difficulty is the same, a point upon which I think we all agree. All knowledge acquired during our studies is vindicated (or not) in real life terms. This is why I feel the comparative of first time pass the papers and those who do not achieve the same objective is disorienting. There is absolutely no evidence to support that first time passers are more equiped and thus better accountants as there are also no evidence to support that non-first time passers are NOT slackers. As said before this will come up in later professional life. This is why the ACCA qualification is a mean to an end and not an end in itself. An end which is dependant upon numerous factors (ability, interest, willingness etc) which determine the value of a qualified person in later professional life. I would suggest that instead for each one to projecti their ego on the matter to rethink in terms of professionalism.
Kind Regards to All
I don’t think there should be re-sits. If you knew you could just retake within a month them surely you wouldn’t try as hard? The fact that its now you pass or wait 6 months means that you will study harder and unfortunately if you fail then you have to wait.. BUT your less likely to fail again after 6 months more hard study? If you kept retaking and failing you would feel worse about it!
dear glennfisher,
what can you possibly give for an answer to admin’s mail on the 6th March. Please drop this idea of yours is not going anywhere. acca is evolving, whether now or later we will get to that.
the fact that you pass once doesnt mean others are failure, there are better students out there. if f1-3 can be taken at anytime, all acca exam can take the same format without compromising the standard. my friend, you must live in the century we live in.
right before our nose, acca stop sending us Student Accountant magazine, acca raises exam fee almost every sitting, students in the UK Singapor etc no longer get hard copy result- strictly online. Things are changing & you must go with the flow.
i assure you, the changes wont devalue the process as long acca continues with the current standard.
@gabriel, there is no need to prolong this discussion
we are sending the results to the ACCA
we are not sending them updates, after that.
they can conduct their own research and decide, we only did what students asked us to do
@admin,
many thanks to you & your team, it’s imporftant you follow this through.
we appreciate you guys.
are you saying that you prepare the exams the day before exams? you should have been consistent throughout your revision such that these factors would not affect you at all
am i the only one who object? I think i should offer an opinion on a flip-side of coin. i am sorry to say that but having these rules in place would not be fair for those who have graduated as they need to wait for 6 months to re-take. Some students might not put much efforts or take in granted. There will also be consistency of questions standards. I am sorry to say that if you have put that much efforts or grasped the concepts correctly you wouldn’t even have flunked in the first place. Failed marginally or not makes no difference, you still fail.You fail it take it again at the SAME cost.
I understand it is a hassle and tough moments having to wait for another 6 months but rules are rules, they are there for a reason and please don’t be so selfish and support this just because you happened to fail your exams.
re taking exams after a month – i support.
Less cost on re take – i support
Re take for those above 40 – i don’t support
Results after 4 weeks – i support
I voted against, this idea will complicate and depreciate whole program. Rules are clear and so should stay. This is seldom situation when fail mark gets person well prepared. Look on your failed exams – how many times did you fail but was HOPING for 50, which actually means ” I should have been studying much more”. Should this be awarded with additional sitting? I don’t think so.
@laurentina,
dear friend, your position is not so clear on this matter, to me you do not have a justifiable reasons why this shouldnt stand. i simply wrote that acca should charge less for retake exams as well as allowing students to retake the exam in a matter of one month interval.
this arrangement to me wont “depreciate” the value of the programme as you so claimed, instead, it’ll reinstates students confidence ( and acca commitment) in the entire process.
laurentina, could you pls come up valid reasons why this shouldnt stand?
i look forward to reading from you.
Gabriel
i quite agree with my fellow students here, it’s only fair that acca charge less for re-take exams at least once.
A month interval is just fantastic as the subject will still be fresh in student’s memory.
please lets push this through to acca-it must be implemented.
cheers! friends.
I have failed ACCA exams. I just dealt with it.
Yes i think it is a great idea. students who fail should be allowed to resit within i month and it should be once before the main exam which comes six months later, not every month
I entirely agree to retake axams in one month after the results. But my worry is, would that be enough time for revision say some one has failed 2 papers. You know the mood after exams is quite different so to make up and get ready for the exams might be quite tricky. Another thing is who meets the expenses of retake? ACCA or Student?. And what happens if you fail the retake?
@beyagala, yes you are spot on. if they fail the re-take it is not fair as it won’t affect the duration of ACCA then all ACCA grads graduate at the same time. This is just not fair to those who passed all on first attempt and worked so hard on them. Need to distinguish those better candidates still.
The current debate can go on forever. But why focus on the negative aspect of your examination preparation? You guys should be talking and discussing about how to pass the exam rather than to focus on the frequency of re-sits for failed examinees.
@kono, hi, the whole site is dedicated to how to pass acca exams and preparation
so, few topics surely can discuss other issues..
Yes ACCA should allow re-sits. as a matter of fact ACCA should consider offering their exams more than twice a year, thus working persons can schedule exams around their busy schedules. I do not see how it will deminish the profession as some claim. ACCA’s structure doesn’t allow for real life interferences like a vehicular accident the day of the exam, a death in family a few days before exam, a co-worker being hospitalised a week before exam and you no longer able to take time off to prepare (all of these have been experienced either by myself or my close friends). Mind you I work at a University and persons “do” get make-up exams when such circumstances arise as apposed to having to re-take an entire course for 5 months. ACCA does not even allow a refund but one must wait 6 months to do exam you would have already been preparing for,it’s a bit unfair because trust me persons with demanding careers make a lot of sacrifices trying to prepare for ACCA, especially us persons in regions with sub-standard/no tuition providers.
Hi
I think ACCA are a little out of date and this may cause students to pick CIMA which will devalue ACCA in the long term, as one accountancy body will grow and the other diminish. CIMA offers resits, ACCA does not. In the current financial climate all students need to pass exams not wait six months to do resits. My personal option is the exams should be computer based and it should simply be a case of applying when ready to complete as with F1-F3. Results would be instant and students could still work at their own pace. Whatever exam is taken, to pass you have to know the information. Putting all the exams into one/two weeks is simply stupid and shows little regard for student welfare.
@chrissi11, Great words.. you are 100% Right.. What can V do..:((
i am repenting, Y i adopted ACCA. but at final stage i can not excape..
I must have go for CPA (USA)
i 100% agree with this policy its very good
acca should go for it
If ACCA were to allow you to resit in the next month I would not study for the qualification as I would consider it to be devalued.
@glennfisher, yes i would consider taking up another qualification that distinguish outstanding candidates who pass all on first attempt
For each student that failed individually it would be great. But in total ACCA qualification may become less valuable.. So I vote NO.
@sangria9, Total ACCA qualification would become more attracive and valuable.. See, the number of student switched from ACCA to CPA (usa)
So I vote Yes.
@hafeezjaved, it’s better for those who cannot cope to switch. uality wins quantity
It is good for every student.so i think acca authority should consider this fact.
It is a great proposal because it relieves the burden of exams that will pill up in the end days of exams. I hope this proposal should be accepted.
It is a great to resit within after one month
this is the greatest vote you people have ever made in the entire open tuition that makes me so happy . I accept without contradiction to this idea of rewriting the paper your failed after one month.
God has sent you
It a nice ting to implement as fast as possible .
I think re-taking the exams in one month would be a good idea, waiting for another six months delays progression into another level/papers
i totally agree with the idea, 6 month for me its too long, i hope ACCA considers this idea.
regards
Hi there
Time is running very fast and competition is on unavoidable now a days. ACCA unlike other qualifications (American) take long to qualify due to its exam polices, because student has to wait for next 6 months to attempt subject again (failed paper). ACCA is the most growing professional body from all over the world, but its exam polices and way of exam is still on 20 years old parameters. I started ACCA in 2007 and doing job, till now I am unqualifed because of system of exams. Number of attempts MUST BE more than TWO in a
year.
Student which has failed in June or Dec attempt, should be allowed to clear that paper within two weeks or 40 days INSTEAD of waiting for next time.
This can save precious time of student.
CONTRIBUTION OF ADMIN IS HIGHLY APPRECIATED in this Regards
Thanks Admin
@hafeezjaved,
Fundamentally disagree with everything you have said.
Resits will completely devalue the ACCA qualification.
If you had passed the exams and were qualified you would not be of the same opinion.
How would you feel if you had passed them all first time?
@glennfisher, Resit is a resit, and is allowed by the ACCA. students can retake exam many times and have 10 years to do it..
thinking your way: as it devalues ACCA, maybe they should not allow resetting exams completely.. just to be a club for those who pass the first time .. but what would be the point?!
The value of any examinations is in your ‘mind’
employers do not ask how many marks you had in this or this exam before they hire you, ACCA does not care either, pass is a pass,
I think, in your mind, you are trying to make ACCA more that it really is!
good luck
@admin, you are 100% correct employers do not ask how many marks you get, but unfortunately that was not a point I was making to support my argument. Nice effort though.
Employers do however ask how long you have been studying for, which is a good indicator of your exam ability and liklieness of you passing the exams that they are likely to be paying for. Having another chance makes misrepresentations to your employers about the your exam ability and how you can work hard the first time around.
A pass is a pass and that is exactly my point. If you do not get 50% it is not because you had a bad exam or were unlucky with the questions it is because you were not prepared enough. The resit shorly after the first sitting gives the badly prepared two bites of the cherry and I think that is unfair to the others that studied hard and prepared well the first time.
You think, in my mind, I am trying to make ACCA more than it really is? What kind of statement is that?!?! I am not trying to start arguments here but you cannot be guessing someones thoughts.
ACCA is generally the accountancy qualification that employers, trainees and indeed clients want.
@glennfisher, Hi
Please do not take it personally, but I think this 10% opposing it… is from people who never failed their exam yet..
and while I am happy for them, there seem to be pattern, that they change their mind after they fail..
some comments elsewhere on Facebook demonstrate that.. they would like to allow only the final 2 option exams to be retaken within 1 month.. (only because they failed it..
do you really think, people who failed exam badly.. will pass it again so easily? I don’t! Even if they could retake an exam on demand..
Especially P level exams.. sadly, some students will never pass them.. because they require not just learning but thinking!
my final sentence which seem to upset you.. I meant to say,
Students can retake f1, f2 & f3 exams anytime they want already, does it devalue the qualification?? Were students 10 years ago,,, who were not allowed to do it because there were no CBE exams… treated fairly then?? No, but that’s life, the price of progress
And re your comment, that only students who were not prepared enough … I am afraid, this is not 100% accurate..
there are many other factors.. many outside of students control,
ACCA is not perfect.. if it was.. pass rates for every exam would be similar year to year.. (statistically anyway) there were cases, few years ago Paper P4 was totally unfair and the examiner got sacked! but students were not given refund they had to wait 6 months to sit it again.. or do another optional paper.. they lost their hope of passing that one! Read another comment about P5 exam in December 2011.. http://opentuition.com/groups/p5-advanced-performance-management/forum/topic/p5-passrate/
which bring me to my point, I said in other comments,
it does not matter how many times you can re sit your exam,
as long as the exam fairly assess the knowledge,
regards
A.
@glennfisher,
How would you feel if ACCA conduct exam after 2 years (means one attempt in two years).
My point is that student should have some discretion to schedule their exam like USA education (CIA/CPA).
My point is about number of attempts NOT about exam system.
Thanks
@hafeezjaved, if you answer my question then I will have a think about answering yours.
How would you feel if you had passed all the exams first time?
Or even better – how would you feel if you had passed all the exams first time and a colleague passed them all at the second sitting.
Assuming same ability etc you would qualify at the same time, be on the same pay, treated the same. But they would have more time off and basically not as good as you?
No disrespect intended.
@glennfisher, Appreciated Boss
which paper u r going to appear??.
dear give me tip to pass p3.. failed twice:((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
@glennfisher,Hey the fact that you passed your exams at one sitting compared to your colleague and I dont understand how his passing in one months time or in six months time annoys you.
Once again taking into consideration all the problems arising out of doing so and all other facts like the quality of ACCA,time gaps b/n exams after the retake, all other relevant discussions not merely out of the students urgency to retake the exams,it would be okay for managing the time, the quality or avoiding any other inconveniences as a result of the retake to allow finalists to retake one month later.Think about it.If however there are conditions under which ACCA could do that without compromising the issues raised above by other friends.
I strongly agree with that. Its not been fear to wait another six month to retake their exam especially for those who failed by scratches.
@khutaz, its not fair (not fear) my friend .
(please don’t take it wrong. we all need corrections, my english is not good too )
@aneelraja, thanks
I believe Computer based examinations should be done totally manual giving a failure 1 month 1 day or 1 year should not matter.
it will be great if student can re-take papers that they failed with a minimum mark of 40 one month after the results
An interesting suggestion
I quite agree with this idea! i also think it should be opened to students who scored a minimum of 40 marks as this means that little more studies is needed to pass and this can be covered within a month. Also the retake should not be above one paper.
I also think the time table for the exams should be looked into, having P1, P2, & P3 and even the Fs in the skill modules arrangement is not ok. Papers should be spaced to allow students write them orderly.
I appreciate ACCA for cutting down the result release period to 6weeks after exams but will appreciate it the more if it only take 4weeks to get exam results.
Retake after a month is a great idea!!!
I agree with this idea. also it should be opened to students who scored a minimum of 40marks. this reflects that they need little more practice which can be gained within that one month to ensure passing the paper but it should be at a reduced cost.
Thats a good idea and i like it. Being allowed to re-take one month after results is reasonable option but don’t agree with those who says thi shpuld be only for students who gain 40 marks, this should be for everybody.
One other thing I would love to tell ACCA is that the decision to hold exams like F6, F7 and F8 the day after each other is not helpful. In most case I would say people sit exams in order and if you were to sit F6, F7 and F8, which i am doing in the June sitting, I have no study days inbetween these exams. So after sitting one exam I spend the rest of that day refreshing my knowledge and getting in the mindset of tomorrow’s exam. These exams aren’t easy and at least a day inbetween exams would be more than helpful. Surely they can re-arrange the days the exams are set on.
@schoolsin, are you saying that you prepare the exams the day before exams? you should have been consistent throughout your revision such that these factors would not affect you at all
I think one of the reasons that is frustrated about the ACCA is the long time taken in preparing for exams (2 exam periods within one year), in addition to the large number of subjects.That is not happened in America. Life is short and quick and to complete exams you need a number of years at least five years of age to become qualified. I hope ACCA take the results of the poll into consideration.
this is very suitable option specially for optional papers
hello,
I received a reply from admin for my previous comments.
I agree it is good for those who are just one exam behind to get their certificate.
But for a regular student (i mean who is in the middle of this qualification) i still think it’s not worth.
In a six months time we think we can take 3 exams.
But if retake will be a month after the exam result (i.e. end of March) we will pay full attention to this exam. After that we will have two months left (April and May).so how many exams we will take in June (I would take just One).
But If exams takes place three times a year that would be a better idea.
Besides this if we really want to change the exam techniques some how, then in my opinion ACCA should change exam dates schedule.
I mean F7,F8, F9 are in the same row no time to relax a bit and revise.
There should be a change in dates for example :
Day 1 = F1 and P5
Day 2 = F5
Day 3 = F2 and P6
Day 4 = F6
Day 5 = F3 and P7
Day 6 = F7
Day 7 = F4
Day 8 = F8
Day 9 = P1
Day 10 = F9
Day 11 = P2
Day 12 = P4
Day 13 = P3
And one more thing can u make a section for Oxford RAP , where students can get material or guide.
And those who have done it can upload their RAP’s and grades they got for their projects as a guide for other students.
Thank u very much,and good luck for June.
@aneelraja, OBU forum is here: http://opentuition.com/groups/obu/
we do not plan to have any specific resources on the site,
@aneelraja,
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i do agree that if we take retake we would end up with insufficient time for the remaining papers (i.e. 2 mnths to june)……….but didnt like ur suggestion for three exam sitting in a year.. to be honest im content with the current manner cause now that we already have some knowledge regarding the paper we flunked in …..saves time for studying …..we will just have to revise…..do some practice etc……therefore it wont be that strenous i believe.
Yes sure, it would be ideal situation.
yes this should be effeted because a fail does not mean your not good nor you didnt prepare but its just that you did not meet all examiner’s expectations. 6 months wait sometimes is demoralising and for us that we work at some point its hard to plan for resit and may find it even more hard to perform better.
I think this would be very good option. With this option students who are very busy with work will not spend additional 6 months for retaking the same paper. They will have chance to retake exam after one month and then after 6 months to study the next paper.
Also I think that shouldn’t be and difference between students who got more or less marks.
Those who fail for the first time should be made to re-write and pay NOTHING AT ALL or at most HALF THE COST
I can`t agree more with those saying only those between 40 and 49 should be allowed to resit.Sometimes you fail not because you dont know or din`t prepare thoroughly but a few minor mistakes which could well be rectified.
@hlony, and sometimes you fail because of english.English is not a first language for all students.many students takes too much time to understand wording in question papers
The quality of ACCA should be maintained in any decision as far as the examination is concerned, student who attempt one or more papers should only be allowed to write 1 month later on the conditions that : 1. he has failed the only paper seated for and obtained a minimum of 40 marks .
2. he failed on out of two or three or four papers written and must have scored at least 40 marks.
The ACCA professional body is not a supermarket where sales of product is the order of the day. Do not compromise the quality of the ACCA exam!
@kono, Amazing
not sure why you are doing ACCA – because ACCA have already degraded themselves in your eyes..
CBE exams for F1, F2, F3 students can take on demand anytime..
The Quality of the exam should NOT depend how often you can sit the exam.
BUT how well it tests you in the exam! Whether the exam is not too easy and not too hard, but just right level.. if the exam and the examiner is fair ….
the list can go on
but why shall I care
it is just amusing (scary haha) reading some comments.
It would be great if students could re-sit an exam one month after failing. Of course it should only be available to students who fail by a small margin.
I think this is a fantastic option. It is much better to retake the exam one month later than six months when you have others to concentrate on.
I think being allowed to re-take one month after the results is a reasonable option that should be available – this is not to say that every student will take this up as some may choose to wait and re-take at June sitting.
Alternatively instead to making the option available to everyone this should be available for those who gain 45% or more (i.e. fail by a small margin)!!
@tariqm, I think 2 weeks from the date of result should be granted for retake ONLY for those who fail by a small margin I totally agree with this 45%