Budgeting (part b) Beyond Budgeting

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  1. Avatar of Pranz Pranz says:
    April 7, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    thank you for the lecture on beyond budgeting. provides a basis for understanding the student accountant article on the same.

  2. Avatar of hafizomair hafizomair says:
    February 23, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Hi are these Lectures useful for the jun-13 attempt ?

  3. Avatar of sarahlim sarahlim says:
    August 15, 2012 at 8:48 am

    Hi, I cannot go into this website can u post the PDF file here?
    TQ

  4. Avatar of kigwanajohn kigwanajohn says:
    June 8, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    @tahiracca, apart from the financial measures above, the divisional managers would be assessed on non financial measures like product quality, innovation, etc. population is not a measure of performance.

  5. Avatar of tahiracca tahiracca says:
    May 20, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    I have a question. While comparing the performances of managers in different divisions there may be a scenario where division 1 might me in a better economic position due to for instance high number of consumers and division b in a relatively bad economic position. So how would the managers in both of the divisions be comparable? . Kindly list the possible solutions to this scenario. Also kindly stretch it from divisions to organisations having unrelated magnitude of operations.

    • Avatar of kigwanajohn kigwanajohn says:
      June 7, 2012 at 9:57 am

      @tahiracca, I think we have to compare like with like. Therefore it would be unfair to compare the managers in different economic conditions, likewise divisions with unrelated magnitude of operations would mean different sizes of divisions, which makes it difficult to compare. For the difference in the No. of customers for instance, you have to consider why the difference; is it because one division is older than the other? or one manager has better strategies to pull customers. In case of the latter, u can compare but in the former scenario, it would be unfair.

      • Avatar of tahiracca tahiracca says:
        June 7, 2012 at 6:54 pm

        @kigwanajohn, So as for beyond budgeting we are supposed to compare managers of different divisions or organisations while they may have demographic issues, like one division might be in a fairly lower populated area and the other in a densely populated one or it could be the level of liking for the product in each of the areas etc.. What might be the possible solution here? Can it be that the performance would be measured with reference to population or liking etc.. Kindly share your views as to make the comparison fair in these sort of situations

        • Avatar of kigwanajohn kigwanajohn says:
          June 8, 2012 at 6:50 pm

          @tahiracca, performance will be measured on the profitability of the division, using measures like EVA, ROI, RI etc. All these measures depend on capital employed. Looking at the issues like demography, i imagine a sensible investment manager of the group will allocate capital to divisions depending on a number of factors like demography. When this is done, then the divisions will be compared very well.

  6. Avatar of gazsun12 gazsun12 says:
    November 21, 2011 at 8:00 am

    Hi,
    Thank you for the great lecture, appreciate it. Lecturer has mentioned about the article on Beyong Budgeting by examiner. Can anyone tell me where can I find that. Once again thank you for sharing the knowledge :)

    Cheers

  7. Avatar of saadahmednangiana saadahmednangiana says:
    September 1, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    i have a question beyond budgeting is saying that compare the performance of one manager with the other but my question is that if we shall be comparing the performance like this , then that means that we are comparing performance without standards and how do we know that 1st manager have performed well so to compare the performance of other manager with him?

    • Avatar of johnmoffat johnmoffat says:
      September 1, 2011 at 6:25 pm

      The problem with measuring performance by comparing with budget figures is that the budget is based on all sorts of estimates as to the state the economy will be in. For example, if you are measuring the performance of the manager of a division, in preparing the budget you will have made assumptions as to the rate of inflation in the coming year and as to the growth in the country’s economy etc etc..
      If the economy grow much more than you were expecting when you prepared the budget, then the manager will report a higher profit than budgeted, but it does not mean that he has actually done his job any better. (And similarly, if the economy collapses next year then he will report a lower profit, but it is not his fault).
      For that reason, Beyond Budgeting suggests that it would be much better to compare performance with that of similar managers – if one manager does much better than the others then he has done his job well and deserves rewarding for it.
      (The problem of course is making sure that you have similar managers to compare with – I mean managers responsible for the same things.)
      Hope that explains a bit better :-)

      • Avatar of rooman rooman says:
        March 1, 2013 at 7:45 pm

        is this concept only applied to comparing performances in fields which are open to public…what about comparing performance of a research department manager of apple computers with??????

  8. Avatar of born2bdainty born2bdainty says:
    August 26, 2011 at 4:06 am

    Can anyone tell me why the sales volume variance on page 95 of the P5 notes is $2,500.00? I can’t see how that is the answer. PLEASE HELP!!!!

  9. Avatar of kikah kikah says:
    June 9, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    this lecture is incomplete. im not satisfied because of that fact. though its good

  10. Avatar of astar29 astar29 says:
    March 26, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Hi, this is very urgent! any assistance on this question is much appreciated! where can i find the answers to P5 chap 3, example 1 based on preparation of flexed budget? Thanks

  11. Avatar of tmamba tmamba says:
    November 14, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Thank you for loading the new P5 lectures videos.

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