Sir i have a doubt in example 3.You said something related to ex div market value which i did not understand properly. Is it something like this? If they say that, the Cum div market value is 360c and dividend of 30c was about to be paid then Po(ex div) would be 360-30= 330 cents. Right? And cost of equity would be 30(1+0.08)/330 +0.08 Am i right?
Help – For equity required rate of return When is appropriate to use CAPM , or the re-arranged growth formula as mention in the lecture (time frame 6.54) What is ACCA view on this
Should we be asked to comment on the accuracy of the estimated future Market Value per share as in Example 6 (c). Can we say that this subject to the accuracy of the dividend growth as well as the assumption that the shareholder required rate of return remain constant?
It is nothing to do with the required rate of return being constant. The market value today depends on the rate of return they require as of today. In the future, required returns may change and therefore the market value will change.
It does however depend on the estimate of the expected dividend growth rate being correct. It is the expected rate of growth that determines the market value.
Sir why question 1(chapter 17) is using different symbols for shareholders required rate of return ? In earlier chapter we used symbol ‘re’ and in this chapter its ke? I know its silly question but still thought of clarifying my doubt.
hello sir hey you took the 4th under root to calculate average growth but sir calculator states the answer 1.15598 if we deduct 1 than we get the 15 % in example 4? is that i am getting it wrong or you made an error .?
Just one question. The statement “Shareholders usually have the power to increase dividends at annual general meetings of a company” is false. Why ? Is it because their ownership is dispersed by holding just a small proportion of shares, so they hardly can coordinate, or something else?
JanKool says
v good.
John Moffat says
Thank you 🙂
mwiser says
Hi John,
In example 6(c) is the time value of 14% not taking into account??
Thanks
rishabbohra98 says
Sir i have a doubt in example 3.You said something related to ex div market value which i did not understand properly. Is it something like this?
If they say that, the Cum div market value is 360c and dividend of 30c was about to be paid then Po(ex div) would be 360-30= 330 cents. Right?
And cost of equity would be 30(1+0.08)/330 +0.08
Am i right?
John Moffat says
Yes, you are right.
rishabbohra98 says
Thanks a lot
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂
dmittal says
Help –
For equity required rate of return
When is appropriate to use
CAPM , or
the re-arranged growth formula as mention in the lecture (time frame 6.54)
What is ACCA view on this
John Moffat says
The ACCA does not have views on things like this!! 🙂
In theory both approaches would obviously give the same result. In practice they don’t and CAPM is regarded as better.
In the exam, the method you use is dependent on the information given in the question – both approaches are examined.
yushengng says
Dear John,
Should we be asked to comment on the accuracy of the estimated future Market Value per share as in Example 6 (c). Can we say that this subject to the accuracy of the dividend growth as well as the assumption that the shareholder required rate of return remain constant?
Thank you!
John Moffat says
It is nothing to do with the required rate of return being constant. The market value today depends on the rate of return they require as of today. In the future, required returns may change and therefore the market value will change.
It does however depend on the estimate of the expected dividend growth rate being correct. It is the expected rate of growth that determines the market value.
rakhi2rakhi says
Sir why question 1(chapter 17) is using different symbols for shareholders required rate of return ? In earlier chapter we used symbol ‘re’ and in this chapter its ke? I know its silly question but still thought of clarifying my doubt.
John Moffat says
The symbols both mean the same – it is annoying but it is because the examiner uses both symbols on the formula sheet 🙁
pirates says
hello sir
hey
you took the 4th under root to calculate average growth but sir calculator states the answer 1.15598 if we deduct 1 than we get the 15 % in example 4? is that i am getting it wrong or you made an error .?
pirates says
sorry sir ! i got the answer u did right . very sorry …. 🙂
John Moffat says
No problem – I am pleased you are now sorted 🙂
Candy says
Dear John,
Exam 4 you mention years of growth, however between years 98 -99, there was no growth but a drop.
When you say growth do you still include this?
Many thanks
John Moffat says
Of course – that is why I do it in the lecture!!!
The average growth is the average of both positive and negative growth.
Candy says
Ok thanks
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂
zeeshan says
hello sir
i have serious issues with F9 .. I have been failed 4th time in F9 .. please guide me to pass the F9 paper , i shal be vry thankful to you …
Marko says
Dear John,
Just one question. The statement “Shareholders usually have the power to increase dividends at annual general meetings of a company” is false. Why ? Is it because their ownership is dispersed by holding just a small proportion of shares, so they hardly can coordinate, or something else?
Thank you very much
John Moffat says
It is the directors who determine the level of dividends. The most that the shareholders can do is vote to remove the directors.
Marko says
I see now. Thank you
Marko
John Moffat says
You are welcome 🙂